Message from @Windleaf

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2019-09-24 00:04:53 UTC  

I'm not a climate denier, i just remember that several people have told me the world would end 4 times by now

2019-09-24 00:05:07 UTC  

even NASA came to say that halting all emissions won't do shit to stop it

2019-09-24 00:05:33 UTC  

i amnt trying to excuse china or india here , you just trying to shift your personal responsibility

2019-09-24 00:05:36 UTC  

I miss when they were saying we were gonna enter an ice age by 2013

2019-09-24 00:05:38 UTC  

Hell, people have been doomsaying with climate change since at least the 70's

2019-09-24 00:05:44 UTC  

the solution lies in a different approach

2019-09-24 00:05:50 UTC  

i think there was even one in the 50's or so

2019-09-24 00:06:11 UTC  

you know the climate people dont mention anything about china or india or developing africa

2019-09-24 00:06:13 UTC  

a combination of phasing out gas engines and artificially cooling the earth down

2019-09-24 00:06:14 UTC  

thats shady

2019-09-24 00:06:22 UTC  

good luck with the second

2019-09-24 00:06:33 UTC  

they make it out as if its the 1% emission contributors that are evil and must stop immediately

2019-09-24 00:06:41 UTC  

maybe read some scientific papers because no scientist have been saying the world was going to end 4 times since the 70s that were peer reviewed

2019-09-24 00:06:42 UTC  

no, its because those countries will laugh at you and then redouble their polution just to fuck with you

2019-09-24 00:06:44 UTC  

@James Connolly the Paris Accord had no fangs for enforcement. Dropping out of it doesn't mean there's gonna be no reduction just like being in it doesn't mean there will be a reduction. But on top of that the pollution contribution of the entire western world *combined* is *minuscule* compared to China and India.

2019-09-24 00:07:08 UTC  

have you seen the shots of smog in china?

2019-09-24 00:07:24 UTC  

the paris accord is a verbal agreement. has nothing to do with action

2019-09-24 00:07:25 UTC  

@James Connolly my countries Co2 emmissions equal 1.6% of total global emissions, I'm not shifting responsibility, I'm pointing at who is really to blame or are you really that thick?

2019-09-24 00:07:25 UTC  

western world combined has as much as china and india what are you on ?

2019-09-24 00:07:36 UTC  

the way the media portrays the current climate change is something like ``` IF YOU EAT MEAT THE EARTH WILL TURN INTO VENUS```

2019-09-24 00:07:39 UTC  

absolutely bonkers

2019-09-24 00:07:52 UTC  

what country is that then?

2019-09-24 00:07:56 UTC  

Canada

2019-09-24 00:08:06 UTC  

🇨🇦 <:GetDownOnTheBarn:590619824640753697>

2019-09-24 00:08:11 UTC  

my country has a per capita output of 13 tons of co2 per person

2019-09-24 00:08:32 UTC  

canada is far worse im guesiing

2019-09-24 00:08:45 UTC  

If you're actually trying to fix the pollution problem
1) argue against pollution- it's bad and everyone will agree it's bad- rather than trying to be some sort of doom prophet
2) acknowledge CHINA and INDIA as the actual fucking problem because they produce something like a full order of magnitude more pollution than all of NA and EU combined.

2019-09-24 00:09:13 UTC  

And as for WHY China and India are the problem

2019-09-24 00:09:20 UTC  

The climate is going to change even if we all become cavemen.

2019-09-24 00:09:22 UTC  

All the western world has done is NIMBY bullshit

2019-09-24 00:09:30 UTC  

rather than actually trying to fix the problem

2019-09-24 00:09:38 UTC  

Excuse me, *almost* all

2019-09-24 00:09:48 UTC  

but personal responsibirity D:

2019-09-24 00:10:33 UTC  

its like complaining about my single punch against someone while someone else has a machine gun

2019-09-24 00:10:44 UTC  

i am arguing against pollution and it will result in for the majority of people extinction if something isnt done

you do know the us and eu combines put out just as much and more over the course of human history

2019-09-24 00:11:03 UTC  

we are entering the anthropocene

2019-09-24 00:11:07 UTC  

jfc and are they putting out that pollution NOW?

2019-09-24 00:11:09 UTC  

China emits 271.53 million metric tons of CO2

2019-09-24 00:11:10 UTC  

polution is a localized issue for the most part