Message from @Windleaf
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I'm not a climate denier, i just remember that several people have told me the world would end 4 times by now
even NASA came to say that halting all emissions won't do shit to stop it
i amnt trying to excuse china or india here , you just trying to shift your personal responsibility
I miss when they were saying we were gonna enter an ice age by 2013
Hell, people have been doomsaying with climate change since at least the 70's
the solution lies in a different approach
i think there was even one in the 50's or so
you know the climate people dont mention anything about china or india or developing africa
a combination of phasing out gas engines and artificially cooling the earth down
thats shady
good luck with the second
they make it out as if its the 1% emission contributors that are evil and must stop immediately
maybe read some scientific papers because no scientist have been saying the world was going to end 4 times since the 70s that were peer reviewed
no, its because those countries will laugh at you and then redouble their polution just to fuck with you
@James Connolly the Paris Accord had no fangs for enforcement. Dropping out of it doesn't mean there's gonna be no reduction just like being in it doesn't mean there will be a reduction. But on top of that the pollution contribution of the entire western world *combined* is *minuscule* compared to China and India.
have you seen the shots of smog in china?
the paris accord is a verbal agreement. has nothing to do with action
@James Connolly my countries Co2 emmissions equal 1.6% of total global emissions, I'm not shifting responsibility, I'm pointing at who is really to blame or are you really that thick?
western world combined has as much as china and india what are you on ?
the way the media portrays the current climate change is something like ``` IF YOU EAT MEAT THE EARTH WILL TURN INTO VENUS```
what country is that then?
Canada
🇨🇦 <:GetDownOnTheBarn:590619824640753697>
my country has a per capita output of 13 tons of co2 per person
canada is far worse im guesiing
If you're actually trying to fix the pollution problem
1) argue against pollution- it's bad and everyone will agree it's bad- rather than trying to be some sort of doom prophet
2) acknowledge CHINA and INDIA as the actual fucking problem because they produce something like a full order of magnitude more pollution than all of NA and EU combined.
And as for WHY China and India are the problem
The climate is going to change even if we all become cavemen.
All the western world has done is NIMBY bullshit
rather than actually trying to fix the problem
Excuse me, *almost* all
but personal responsibirity D:
its like complaining about my single punch against someone while someone else has a machine gun
i am arguing against pollution and it will result in for the majority of people extinction if something isnt done
you do know the us and eu combines put out just as much and more over the course of human history
we are entering the anthropocene
jfc and are they putting out that pollution NOW?
China emits 271.53 million metric tons of CO2
polution is a localized issue for the most part