the subtext of encouraging competition can come from things other than abuse, but that is the typical human source

dont' assume

@Kealor I don't think instilling fear, breaking down the child's character from the offset and making them vengeful is good for anyone, least of all you.

appears it was needed

Pain is not always bad, pleasure is not always good.

minimal necessary force still applies

@Tonight at 11 - DOOM Amen, my brother!

what is necessary changes all the time

i accept that as an axiom, Doom

exceeding the minimal necessary is overkilling it

"For everything there is a season..."

because it isnt necessary

Fuck... how does one beat their kids right, though?

And too much of anything is BAD

by shooting them

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people who have been "bad abused" do return from the darkness though

people who have seen none are doomed to fail

That's a bit far. I doubt any kids are born bulletproof.

might be just me but id atleast prefer some odds over no odds

don’t worry, you’ll be able to cut childcare costs

No... ***SOME*** people who have been badly abused return.

remember, the beating of kids ALSO has to do with information because when our dad said, "I brought you into this world and i can take you out of it" we BELEIVED him

Others shoot up schools, commit suicide and so forth.

Turn to criminality.

we didn't have no internet to show he couldn't do this

or no 1900 number

@ManAnimal the fact he didnt take us out of it is why he's admirable

that BELEIF was the most important element

its not a belief

and that is only possible in a vaccum

its completely true

if you dont think you could kill your child under any circumstance, youre the type of person that would

dont get me wrong i wouldnt encourage it, but having no good men is worse than having some bad men

where the kid doesn't have access to more infor than the parent

I don't personally believe doing that to a kid is wholly necessary... at least not until some cusp has been reached.

lol i wouldnt treat that axiomatically Boop but i agree with the sentiment

it isn't the actual beating, it's the effect the beleif that the threat has on the child

Where the kid has gone so far... so extremely far... that they need to be reminded of who is the boss.

cause in reality, there ARE things that can hurt them

I tend to agree with Boop.