Message from @SnowPirate67

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2019-09-15 23:52:05 UTC  

otherwise, they are just words on a page

2019-09-15 23:52:08 UTC  

Guess who has the monopoly on force?

2019-09-15 23:52:13 UTC  

The state

2019-09-15 23:52:20 UTC  

incorrect

2019-09-15 23:52:23 UTC  

the Federal Gov

2019-09-15 23:52:29 UTC  

And if the rule exists in the first place to actually be enforced. There’s no legal boundary that says a state cannot leave the Union, meaning that secession was perfectly within the legal authority of the states.

2019-09-15 23:52:33 UTC  

Did you not just hear what I said?

2019-09-15 23:52:36 UTC  

I WISH the State had the monopoly

2019-09-15 23:52:44 UTC  

The Feds are the State you dumb boomer

2019-09-15 23:52:59 UTC  

pay attention, the discussion is about STATE'S rights

2019-09-15 23:53:02 UTC  

When I refer to “the State” that is what is the govt

2019-09-15 23:53:03 UTC  

After all, any powers not explicitly given to the federal government are assumed to be the power the states and citizens hold respectively.

2019-09-15 23:53:12 UTC  

the State is not the Federal Gov in this context

2019-09-15 23:53:32 UTC  

what 'you refer to' in your head, we cannot know

2019-09-15 23:53:37 UTC  

pay attention to context

2019-09-15 23:53:41 UTC  

The state is the smaller political entity; a region.

2019-09-15 23:53:58 UTC  

For example, Connecticut is a state.

2019-09-15 23:54:00 UTC  

we know this, but the two statements are incompatible

2019-09-15 23:54:17 UTC  

false dichotomy

2019-09-15 23:54:34 UTC  

Mao was woke af

2019-09-15 23:54:37 UTC  

Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun.".

2019-09-15 23:54:37 UTC  

"State has monopoly on force" - this is NOT the same usage as 'Pennsylvania is a State"

2019-09-15 23:54:40 UTC  

same word

2019-09-15 23:54:47 UTC  

two different meanings

2019-09-15 23:54:55 UTC  

and we were using the second

2019-09-15 23:55:01 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/613767975614283832/622943482268614697/The-state-of-Texas-is-bigger-than-the-country-of-France-and-Germany.jpg

2019-09-15 23:55:20 UTC  

this man speaks the truth

2019-09-15 23:55:21 UTC  

@Uksio same, but for Virginia.

2019-09-15 23:55:22 UTC  

Again as political argument the State refers to whoever is in charge as a political entity. Doesn’t mean local or otherwise

2019-09-15 23:55:40 UTC  

that is a false equivalence

2019-09-15 23:55:45 UTC  

no it’s not

2019-09-15 23:55:49 UTC  

and it is at the very core of the issue

2019-09-15 23:55:49 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/613767975614283832/622943681032355842/Crosswalk_state_road_paint.png

2019-09-15 23:55:53 UTC  

libertarians will agree with me on this

2019-09-15 23:56:08 UTC  

wtf

2019-09-15 23:56:14 UTC  

However, we’re talking about the specific legal confines of a state itself. From the constitutional sense, it refers to the states; the specific regions of the country with their own political autonomy.

2019-09-15 23:56:19 UTC  

by your argument, a british citizen would conisder the EU and the UK the same

2019-09-15 23:56:32 UTC  

oh hi im british

2019-09-15 23:56:35 UTC  

both fuction as their 'goverment'

2019-09-15 23:56:36 UTC  

Yes they are political entities with the power projection are they not?

2019-09-15 23:56:52 UTC  

well the UK isnt a state