Message from @Wercal3

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2019-09-16 16:23:37 UTC  

But you don't vote for that representative

2019-09-16 16:23:38 UTC  

or wut

2019-09-16 16:23:42 UTC  

"representative"

2019-09-16 16:23:54 UTC  

eu parliament is segregated from representative

2019-09-16 16:24:06 UTC  

are govs representantives or not?

2019-09-16 16:24:08 UTC  

MEPs cant actually do a whole lot other than make suggestions

2019-09-16 16:24:10 UTC  

Let's say the the PM/president had to choose someone who would choose the person who chooses the Commissioner

2019-09-16 16:24:18 UTC  

those suggestions can be ignored

2019-09-16 16:24:22 UTC  

anyway i said id fuck off

2019-09-16 16:24:24 UTC  

Would that be democratic?

2019-09-16 16:24:33 UTC  

What's the line?

2019-09-16 16:24:46 UTC  

What's the point where you say okay, that's not democratic

2019-09-16 16:25:05 UTC  

people vote for gov-------->PM/gov------>chooses commisioner

2019-09-16 16:25:28 UTC  

That's not democratic, though

2019-09-16 16:25:45 UTC  

sorry but we live in a world of representative democracies

2019-09-16 16:26:08 UTC  

direct democracy is not available yet

2019-09-16 16:26:13 UTC  

for millions of people

2019-09-16 16:26:15 UTC  

A representative can pass legislation, etc.

2019-09-16 16:26:18 UTC  

That's fine

2019-09-16 16:26:53 UTC  

But how can they choose someone for the most important job, basically a higher position than their own, without anyone voting for it?

2019-09-16 16:27:10 UTC  

Direct democracy sounds like a complete nightmare.

2019-09-16 16:27:14 UTC  

we the people give them that power

2019-09-16 16:27:19 UTC  

by voting for them

2019-09-16 16:27:24 UTC  

to become goverment

2019-09-16 16:27:30 UTC  

Yes, but you don't vote for the actual commissioners

2019-09-16 16:27:32 UTC  

how is this not democratic

2019-09-16 16:27:45 UTC  

There is a layer of representation which is redundant

2019-09-16 16:28:11 UTC  

Again, I'm saying if there were 5 layers or 12 layers, what would be the line where it would not be okay?

2019-09-16 16:28:27 UTC  

Like a person that chooses a person who chooses a person who chooses a person...

2019-09-16 16:28:27 UTC  

dunno how many times i can say the same thing tbh

2019-09-16 16:28:48 UTC  
2019-09-16 16:29:17 UTC  

So you'd be fine with 3 or 4 layers of choosing?

2019-09-16 16:29:32 UTC  

i m fine with the system as is

2019-09-16 16:29:50 UTC  

voting for the commisioner wouldnt be bad

2019-09-16 16:30:01 UTC  

but still

2019-09-16 16:30:09 UTC  

Why wouldn't it be better for the president/PM to propose a few commissioners and the people to vote for the person they want to represent them?

2019-09-16 16:30:13 UTC  

we can change anything we dont like moving forward

2019-09-16 16:30:26 UTC  

I think we should just have a world war

2019-09-16 16:30:33 UTC  

yes tbh

2019-09-16 16:30:37 UTC  

and nuke britain

2019-09-16 16:30:48 UTC  

Greeks are jealous of the UK