Message from @Tonight at 11 - DOOM
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Anyway, my point is it's important to talk about it and present it as it was like in the debate
It’s defiantly a knee jerk response in the modern context
It’s pretty much a way to justify Islamic extremists and frame themselves as defensive in their actions on the west
Yup
When it’s just not true in the slightest lol
The west has pressured the Middle East but not in a frame of religious dominance. Which is what the jhihadis and fundamentalists are after.
Yeah. I mean, by the West I'd say the elites. And now the ordinary people are getting the blame
actually he's kind of spot on
Theo E.J. Wilson's ted talk
Daily reminder that, strictly speaking, republics claim that it is their voting population that is sovereign. Thus terrorism makes perfect sense as an act of war proper. The US bombs the ME, Middle Easterners retaliate against the US sovereign. 🙂
No it doesn’t hence terrorism is not targeting the state who are responsible for the actions in the Middle East
All terrorists do is make people more annoyed at middle eastern people and now are less aggrieved if said government continues to bomb them
'We the People' RIP
I'm not saying that the terrorists are right
I'm saying the idea that 'the ppl' are sovereign is dumm^^
Think in a way you are considering you said the action is proper
wat? (edited)
Since they are sovereign you think said terrorist are therefore just in their actions to target them to in turn effect the state
Logically speaking
I'm saying that, were they indeed sovereign, they would, yes.
You bomb em
they get mad
they bomb you
Not if u bomb them well enuf
Das a separate issue
I’m sorry for interrupting continue
No because billy bob isn’t telling the government to bomb Muhammad cause he is getting water
You drive us ever further from God @Canadalake
Ofc Billy bob isn't
Hahaha this guy gets it ❤
but the constitution of the US claims he does
the ideological foundation of his polity claims he does
I don't think it;s true
I'm just saying republics *claim* this is how this shit works.
Republics claim they vote people in to represent them on matters of state. Leadership in turn acts on their behalf. Which you can argue sure. But overall doesn’t give ya right to terrorism. Since anyone outside a 5 year old knows that’s not cut and dry as the idea of a republic is.
I mean if we accept that gov *represents* the ppl
then it represents the ppl
if the ppl are indeed sovereign
then they surely are responsible for the military actions of their army
Their sovereign enough to elect people after that point it’s out of their hands.