we were making the point that we were trying to end slavery from the beginning

but that it wasnt as easy as just making it law

Monica is a female , dont expect much

since most of the slave owners also had private armies we couldnt fight

Everyone is sick of “muh America bad” @LmaoMoni

My point was it took a lot of effort to overcome the simplistic system of master and slave

Females have periods

so we built a coalition and changed popular opinion

Also that’s not their point

And to create individualism

Keep track of a timeline

until we had just enough power to do it at great cost

Give me one argument against slavery

And a lot of reasoning behind it is modern

and made it our first order of business

abraham lincoln was the first republican president

From your "philosophical" take I can only gather that you claim slavery to not be neccesarily morally wrong in the given and pre-determined parameters of the philosophy thought preceding the "current" one

Which is uber vague in of itself

slavery is evil

No it's not

Monica is exhausting...why doesn't she just give up and go read some books...

all humans are made in the image of god

@Snake I think that is mostly because people find it insulting when somebody judges the past from a modern framework.

It's only evil when my people is enslaved

How is slavery evil

But when it's others, it's perfectly fine

@Zakhan oh yeah that too

apparently you cant disagree with ancient peopoles ideals

oops

I am of the opinion that might be because she has a personal stake in slavery being a bad thing.

No I know slavery is wrong my point is the way we think of it is a modern issue.

@Andrew Popa 2.0 in a society that doesn't have the tools and innovations necessary to effectively organize originally foreign labour force without slavery whilst avoiding large risks to the society itself (risks that might result in societal collapse or long civil wars, resulting in many dead)

@LmaoMoni you can, it’s just not something you should judge morally

Again, extremely vague, what do tou even mean by that?

that is how we evolve

Because making moral judgements of the far past is useless

Someone in 1780 would have a harder time making a coherent argument against slavery than someone now.

Do you mean modern practices and cases of slavery?

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@LmaoMoni the judgment already happened

The modern and contemporary view on slavery?