Message from @Lios

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2019-09-25 13:07:07 UTC  

See AMD

2019-09-25 13:07:25 UTC  

It’s just harder to make die shrinks happen really which is what propelled it

2019-09-25 13:07:30 UTC  

@UnfilteredGarbage That is effectively my position on this

2019-09-25 13:07:32 UTC  

@Lios this. Deep learning is just efficiency-minded memorization and recall

2019-09-25 13:07:55 UTC  

And only on specific subjects

2019-09-25 13:08:03 UTC  

Well outside of what something one would call intelligence

2019-09-25 13:08:15 UTC  

Technological progression isn't at a consistent speed

2019-09-25 13:08:40 UTC  

Still kinda fast these past few decades

2019-09-25 13:08:49 UTC  

@Samaritan™ sure, but we're talking about getting around a basic limitation of physics in this regard

2019-09-25 13:08:49 UTC  

Its remarkable that its been getting faster and more complex at the same time I wouldn't be shocked if that hit a wall at some point

2019-09-25 13:09:08 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/613767975614283832/626404812485033994/image0.jpg

2019-09-25 13:09:22 UTC  

Well we seem to be hitting a wall on miniaturization at this point

2019-09-25 13:09:24 UTC  

Walls have been hit everywhere, and surpassed within the past 40 years on numerous subjects. That's the rate of our current technological advance.

2019-09-25 13:09:39 UTC  

Once again my point exactly @UnfilteredGarbage

2019-09-25 13:09:45 UTC  

We're almost overdoing it

2019-09-25 13:10:05 UTC  

Hitting a wall or lacking the materials

2019-09-25 13:10:19 UTC  

Lacking the ability to work with the materials

2019-09-25 13:10:19 UTC  

Quantum computing is how we get around the wall, but that's theoretical right now

2019-09-25 13:10:21 UTC  

Carbon nanotubes could see us drop below 7nm easily

2019-09-25 13:10:31 UTC  

Nah, genuine walls. Inability to conceive of a method beyond the current one

2019-09-25 13:10:33 UTC  

Quantum computers exist do they not?

2019-09-25 13:10:40 UTC  

And yeah, carbon nanotubes aren't hitting a technological wall

2019-09-25 13:10:43 UTC  

Just a logistical one

2019-09-25 13:10:52 UTC  

That shit is fucking expensive and time-consuming to make

2019-09-25 13:10:55 UTC  

We need a production method for carbon nanotubes

2019-09-25 13:10:59 UTC  

Google claims to have built one lune

2019-09-25 13:11:00 UTC  

Engineers

2019-09-25 13:11:02 UTC  

Get on that shit

2019-09-25 13:11:02 UTC  

No evidence tho

2019-09-25 13:11:04 UTC  

Still not a technological wall

2019-09-25 13:11:12 UTC  

Things will eventually become so complex that it'll be a lot harder to actually progress because of that innate complexity

2019-09-25 13:11:13 UTC  

IBM have one you can play around with don’t they?

2019-09-25 13:11:41 UTC  

@Samaritan™ i don't think that's necessarily true

2019-09-25 13:11:54 UTC  

It is just not in the near future

2019-09-25 13:11:57 UTC  

The identification of carbon nanotubes as a breakthrough is still very recent

2019-09-25 13:12:04 UTC  

Which is why the logistics isn't there yet

2019-09-25 13:12:08 UTC  

It's not a problem I expect to face anytime soon

2019-09-25 13:12:24 UTC  

I mean look how people "debate", it's all about who's simplification of complex rules is best presented lol

2019-09-25 13:12:25 UTC  

A lot of our most advanced technology is not all that complex, we just have a tendency to go kitchen sink with it and plug a bunch of functions into one device

2019-09-25 13:12:32 UTC  

quantum computing requires an entirely new programming paradigm, thus will take a while before it has utility