Message from @TempleOfIron
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Oh, that.
They believe that their ideology is perfect.
They would be implementing their ideology.
Ergo, they would do it. Consequences be damned.
Eh, it'll be fine.
Just dust it off a bit.
If Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren were pushing US agricultural autarky HARD, demanding that we grow all of our own food, then I might not be as fucking worried by their policies.
Instead, it looks like another bullshit commie-created famine is in our future...
this is my argument regarding china as well, Scale
China is corrupt enough to stop doing things that blow up in their face.
They literally created "special economic zones" that are now responsible for almost all of their growth, because they realized that communism wasn't working so well.
Yet they still call themselves commies.
Socialism always ends in starvation and genocide.
Always.
There are no exceptions.
It doesn’t matter how self sufficient your nation is.
A top down government controlled economy cannot work.
It never has, it never will.
China's communist gov killed children for a generation. if the chinese people tolerated THIS they will certainly tolerate an aburpt cease to all capitalistic activities
Well, until we get an ultra efficient AI on the top of the chain.
Even then, that AI would need data points delivered in real time from literally every citizen and business in the nation.
That genocide won't be from starvation, though.
It's a western fallacy to beleive Chinese would 'revolt' in the event the Communist gov put the E-brake on their economy in order to hurt the West
China only works because they're a mercantilist autocracy, which is communist in name only. If they were actually communist in practice they wouldn't be such a threat.
Yeah, and we've an infrastructure that does just that, Scale.
strongly disagree, arthur
that is what the communist gov WANTS you to beleive
Well, the saturation of those data points is *most* individuals *most* of the time.
You can’t substitute 327 million free thinking individuals responding to supply and demand... with a computer.
Which would be enough to feed an AI.
Can't is a mighty strong word.
the reality is a compartmentalized system; on one side the elite allowed to practice capitalism as long as they behave and trade as instructed and on the other side over a billion peasants
If you can nerve staple everyone and hook their brain up to the AI... maybe?
Exactly. Mercantilist.
not merchantilist
East India Company was super large, took over an entire country, still had to answer to the crown.
they don't get to keep their money
they only get to keep the property
there is a BIG difference
See, now you're thinking on the proper level of conspiracy.
members of the supreme soviet also had nice property
How much should a loaf of bread cost?
How much does it cost to produce?
Nope
Some good shit
who dictates 'should'?
The answer is “As much as the customer is willing to pay.”