Message from @ManAnimal

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2019-09-26 15:15:28 UTC  

well, gravity doesn't have a quantum equivalent

2019-09-26 15:15:37 UTC  

magnetism does

2019-09-26 15:15:53 UTC  

graviton is still one of the many unconfirmed hypothesies

2019-09-26 15:15:58 UTC  

Yeah that is curious

2019-09-26 15:16:07 UTC  

yup, that is what i mean by 'it's nature'

2019-09-26 15:16:15 UTC  

I heard it could be just below what we can detect

2019-09-26 15:16:17 UTC  

Oh ok

2019-09-26 15:16:18 UTC  

we understand the effects VERY well

2019-09-26 15:16:23 UTC  

Well

2019-09-26 15:16:35 UTC  

or rather 'influence'

2019-09-26 15:16:40 UTC  

not so much 'effect's

2019-09-26 15:16:45 UTC  

Aren't we working with hypothesis that gravity is the curvature of spacetime?

2019-09-26 15:17:00 UTC  

It wouldn't be exactly a force like magnetism

2019-09-26 15:17:10 UTC  

but that could be an influence

2019-09-26 15:17:40 UTC  

and it would assume we understood the nature of space time

2019-09-26 15:17:45 UTC  

we don't

2019-09-26 15:17:46 UTC  

Or the graviton wouldn't be detectible in spacetime because photon is the spacetime effect of electromagnetism or summet

2019-09-26 15:17:58 UTC  

Hmmm

2019-09-26 15:18:08 UTC  

Yeah

2019-09-26 15:18:22 UTC  

Is spacetime the sum of all fields or a separate field

2019-09-26 15:18:26 UTC  

ie. we assume gravity is uniform but we have no way of confirming this

2019-09-26 15:18:51 UTC  

Given I'm no scientist I'm open to answers here haha

2019-09-26 15:19:38 UTC  

what was the question?

2019-09-26 15:19:51 UTC  

yup. certainly. i also think there is an occupational hazard of scientists to forget that reality is their ultimate criteria; not their models or math

2019-09-26 15:19:52 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/613767975614283832/626800113599119380/Screenshot_2019-09-25-18-54-352.png

2019-09-26 15:20:01 UTC  

When the server starts talking about quantum physics

2019-09-26 15:20:07 UTC  

And you can't chemistry

2019-09-26 15:20:20 UTC  

Negros

2019-09-26 15:20:32 UTC  

lol; most people that can do physics aren't chemists

2019-09-26 15:20:33 UTC  

Chemistry is glorified electricity :p

2019-09-26 15:20:46 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/613767975614283832/626800329039544330/FB_IMG_1568648437231.jpg

2019-09-26 15:21:03 UTC  

Kek

2019-09-26 15:21:19 UTC  

point is that general relativity doesn't mesh with quantum theory

2019-09-26 15:21:20 UTC  

It would be safe to assume we are a digital recreation of an analog world.

2019-09-26 15:21:40 UTC  

they are good enough in their own right but not 'complete'

2019-09-26 15:21:41 UTC  

I'd say it's safe to assume we are not living

2019-09-26 15:21:59 UTC  

Because we are made of non living protons neutrons and electrons

2019-09-26 15:22:08 UTC  

that was the point of the video i posted; the best assumption is NO assumption

2019-09-26 15:23:03 UTC  

if one can't observe or measure something, it cannot be treated with the same weight as assertions we can prove USING conclusions drawn from actual measurement

2019-09-26 15:24:55 UTC  

every expression in general realitivity includes an assumed '+C' ; a degree of uncertainty meaning that the more removed we become from the actual measurement, the more that uncertainty is compounded

2019-09-26 15:25:51 UTC  

this becomes a problem at the exterma of the theory