she would be dead otherwise

ugh

i mean you dont magdump 20 rounds

you do like, 7

or somewhere around there

nah, that guy was doped up

and then you repeat

they would have been mugged not dead

definitely doped up

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They struggled to hit him firing once. I fear for the neighbors is they had autopeashooters.

when drugged up the guy is just looking for quick money for the next high

then they pissed him off

they had no reason to be using anything but a shotgun tbh

absolutely terrible

^^ agreed

look like they've never used the thing

one shot, one kill

I already said they should have used a shotgun. So we agree.

yup

i just meant automatics would *be better* for selfdefense in a general sense, cuz we were having that topic

although, personally

Eh, with auto you do a controlled 3-5 round burst and reset.

i don't think so

i think shotgun pistol is the way to go

Except they're not better in general.

are we talking about guns again?

okay, well, pick a scenario for me

home invasion?

fantastic

muggery?

if she could have fired bursts, her mother is dead now

Even with a SAW on tripod IIRC.

she doesn't know how to even hold the gun steady

thats just bad practice

any type of burst would go anywhere as she moves the gun everwhere

Because cyclic is only useful for covering fire (area denial).

definitely need more practice with a burst or w/e

@Laucivol or dumping into a target if they're really close