they LOVED the oppression and disadvantage narrative lol

When it morphed into scene kids subculture I saw it then.

The mental gymnastics started happening

it was just after numetal lol

that kind of era of emotional metal where people started glamourising trauma

And thus mental illness has been normalised in just the most wrong way possible

and everyone wanted a good trauma for their life narrative

Yeah, there was a lot of silly behaviors that came along with it. But then again, they're mostly kids. That's when you are supposed to do dumb shit and believe dumb things. You've not learned better. Hell, most the time the concept of the self, who you actually are, is a mystery at that age.

^

yea which is a result of soviet influence in american culture

imo

Care to explain that one better? I don't see it

back in the day, you respected and learned from your parents with a little bit of rebellion to throw yourself out into the world

then in the 40s-50s the soviets (actually had it in writing btw) that they would utilise America's freedom of speech and art to try and diminish the family

it was one of the forms of attack in the cold war

so they went into hollywood, art, media of other kinds. often because you had a lot of communists in those industries already

journalists too

professors.

(((communists)))

Not only soviet. French and German philosophies popularized in the early bits of the century also led quite a lot of people down a path of reductionism. The west isn't innocent in it's own undermining.

well it was people of all races but one ideology, so yea communists.

not like, 'damn commie', as in they were marxist communists who believed in communism. and yea Artaius

As a society though, we've lost a lot of the valuable culture indicators that were present before hand. I.E. Ask a young man today what it means to be a man. When he becomes one. Etc.

I agree though but that is the weakness we kind of chose

the weakness of the Liberal philosophy is that in freedom your security is your own responsibility and that we're all living in a world of our own particular illusions and perceptions

and if someone can manipulate them, that's a vulnerability.

And it's very easily manipulated.

so you pump in a load of anti-family messaging into the airwaves using the communists in those fields and before you know it the kids are singing that tantrum song

'no mom, I wont do what you tell me!@

or whatever the lyrics are

The best system we have as of yet, but yeah. It has issues. The general populace will naturally tend toward complacency as time goes on. And just as you've said, it makes the foundation weak because it is often over looked.

I agree

complacency is a weakness in a liberal society more than any other kind I think

that instinct to constantly defer competence to the state

'protecc me, heal me, fix me, gimme clothes, gimme food, gib job, gib money, gib mental health care, gib roof, gib bedding, gib children' lol

'fix our economy, solve our problems, do our science, protecc our rights'

fix our climate. etc etc etc

Part of that is just the expression of powerlessness too though.

tell me what to buy, what to think, what to feel, what to wear, what to say and not say! please oh mighty government, I'll do anything just take away my doritos and peanut butter!

powerlessness is a choice

There is an element of human nature that prolonged peace breeds discontent because we're biologically hardwired to -survive-, ie, look for dangers and avoid them. So as people we make up problems that don't necessarily pose any real threat at all, and scapegoat like fuck until we feel truly threatened by it. Peace is some kind of exalted ideal that kills us ultimately because we simply didn't evolve for peace.