Message from @WhistleBang

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2019-09-14 08:09:53 UTC  

I think it's also because this generation has no healthy fringe subcultures

2019-09-14 08:10:10 UTC  

And yeah, there's unfortunately a lot of mental illness that complicates a lot of this. Especially for the trans community, for various reasons. It attracts a lot of people who are mentally ill and then dawn the mantle of trans as a way of representing that. Which hurts everyone involved.

2019-09-14 08:10:40 UTC  

I weep for the emo kids of today. There are a few. But I cant help but think, "I had a better time of that phase." fuck social media.

2019-09-14 08:10:42 UTC  

it's all rainbow house music or you're a gender dysphoric depressed alienspirit who believes sexes don't exist

2019-09-14 08:11:18 UTC  

I hated emo so much I actually saw that as the beginning of the sjw shit

2019-09-14 08:11:38 UTC  

I legitimately remember listening in to emo kids competing with who had the most mental health issues (that none of them actually had)

2019-09-14 08:11:55 UTC  

they LOVED the oppression and disadvantage narrative lol

2019-09-14 08:11:57 UTC  

When it morphed into scene kids subculture I saw it then.

2019-09-14 08:12:10 UTC  

The mental gymnastics started happening

2019-09-14 08:12:38 UTC  

it was just after numetal lol

2019-09-14 08:13:19 UTC  

that kind of era of emotional metal where people started glamourising trauma

2019-09-14 08:13:32 UTC  

And thus mental illness has been normalised in just the most wrong way possible

2019-09-14 08:13:33 UTC  

and everyone wanted a good trauma for their life narrative

2019-09-14 08:13:34 UTC  

Yeah, there was a lot of silly behaviors that came along with it. But then again, they're mostly kids. That's when you are supposed to do dumb shit and believe dumb things. You've not learned better. Hell, most the time the concept of the self, who you actually are, is a mystery at that age.

2019-09-14 08:13:59 UTC  

^

2019-09-14 08:14:22 UTC  

yea which is a result of soviet influence in american culture

2019-09-14 08:14:26 UTC  

imo

2019-09-14 08:14:52 UTC  

Care to explain that one better? I don't see it

2019-09-14 08:14:54 UTC  

back in the day, you respected and learned from your parents with a little bit of rebellion to throw yourself out into the world

2019-09-14 08:15:34 UTC  

then in the 40s-50s the soviets (actually had it in writing btw) that they would utilise America's freedom of speech and art to try and diminish the family

2019-09-14 08:15:42 UTC  

it was one of the forms of attack in the cold war

2019-09-14 08:16:07 UTC  

so they went into hollywood, art, media of other kinds. often because you had a lot of communists in those industries already

2019-09-14 08:16:09 UTC  

journalists too

2019-09-14 08:16:11 UTC  

professors.

2019-09-14 08:16:20 UTC  

(((communists)))

2019-09-14 08:16:20 UTC  

Not only soviet. French and German philosophies popularized in the early bits of the century also led quite a lot of people down a path of reductionism. The west isn't innocent in it's own undermining.

2019-09-14 08:16:42 UTC  

well it was people of all races but one ideology, so yea communists.

2019-09-14 08:17:02 UTC  

not like, 'damn commie', as in they were marxist communists who believed in communism. and yea Artaius

2019-09-14 08:17:13 UTC  

As a society though, we've lost a lot of the valuable culture indicators that were present before hand. I.E. Ask a young man today what it means to be a man. When he becomes one. Etc.

2019-09-14 08:17:21 UTC  

I agree though but that is the weakness we kind of chose

2019-09-14 08:18:06 UTC  

the weakness of the Liberal philosophy is that in freedom your security is your own responsibility and that we're all living in a world of our own particular illusions and perceptions

2019-09-14 08:18:27 UTC  

and if someone can manipulate them, that's a vulnerability.

2019-09-14 08:18:55 UTC  

And it's very easily manipulated.

2019-09-14 08:19:11 UTC  

so you pump in a load of anti-family messaging into the airwaves using the communists in those fields and before you know it the kids are singing that tantrum song

2019-09-14 08:19:27 UTC  

'no mom, I wont do what you tell me!@

2019-09-14 08:19:30 UTC  

or whatever the lyrics are

2019-09-14 08:19:36 UTC  

The best system we have as of yet, but yeah. It has issues. The general populace will naturally tend toward complacency as time goes on. And just as you've said, it makes the foundation weak because it is often over looked.

2019-09-14 08:19:53 UTC  

I agree

2019-09-14 08:20:07 UTC  

complacency is a weakness in a liberal society more than any other kind I think

2019-09-14 08:20:18 UTC  

that instinct to constantly defer competence to the state

2019-09-14 08:20:46 UTC  

'protecc me, heal me, fix me, gimme clothes, gimme food, gib job, gib money, gib mental health care, gib roof, gib bedding, gib children' lol