Right.

How this would have played out in an alternative time line I'm not sure. Sure most civilizations have a civil war of sorts but why it happens and how it plays out depends on many factors.

I'm not an expert on that portion of American history so I'm open to ideas and theories.

The Civil war is always a hot button issue in American politics. Everyone has emotions and opinions tied up in it.

Yeah. That's what led to Charlottesville.

Just, as an example.

I just don't understand why the American public is so rabid about that issue.

In part, a lack of education.

Our public school systems are garbage and people are taught what to think instead of how. So instead of analyzing the situation they pull emotion to the forefront.

A great example of this, on that vein, is the flag that people claim is southern pride. That flag they use is the Virginia battle flag. Not one of the four official flags of the C.S.A.

well the flag's meaning has definitely changed since its first use. it represents something completely different to most people

So, what you have is a bunch of uneducated people claiming it's heritage....which it isn't unless you're from Virginia or directly related to one of the soldiers who were under that specific flag.....and you have another side of uneducated people who think it's a slavery flag.

most of the conflict going on these days is just a misunderstanding. people can take a symbol and change its meaning into something else

Right.

I mean, for the sake of argument, it means either of those things. I just always come back to so what?

i think the n word is great example. used to explicitly mean a derogatory term, but if youre black and use the word, it has a totally different meaning

It can mean whatever. It's not worth beating people to death in the streets.

...and therein lies the point.

And is the "n-word" banned here? Are we not allowed to say it?

I've never understood why people are so ready to freak out about a word.

Even if someone uses it as insult against you. It's still just a word.

When your beliefs lead to attacking other people who are non-violent, which in turn creates violence and then becomes cyclic (I don't care who started it, but someone did), it is a problem.

well yeah one side thinks theyre just protecting their history and heritage, and the other side is just some braindead sjw retards, while the other side sees themselves as crushing the intolerant, racist rightwing assholes and that theyre making the world a better place. it really feels like the two groups are arguing past each other a lot of the time, and theyve both just built giant strawmans of each other

some people think violence is justified though

because they think the people theyre attacking are hurting other people too

also idk can i say the n word here?

Violence is only justified against those who are actively violent.

i just erred on the side of caution cause i wasnt sure

....and only then in the defense of oneself or another.

It's a problem. Especially when one side of the argument thinks they are righteous.

Doing Violence in the name of "righteous-ness" is always risk business.

Correct.

And those are the most dangerous people to deal with

Whether it's religious righteous-ness or political.

It allows you to justify whatever you do.

Extremism and zealotry always lead to it.

Yes but it always swings back. Eventually. Today it's this group. 10 years from now who knows who it will be.

I sometimes feel like people cannot be balanced or neutral as a whole

The moment you stop accepting that someone is allowed to have another opinion outside of your perspective and proceed to become violent then you're absolutely in the wrong.

again, people always think that *they* are in the right. if you think youre doing the right thing, it's awfully easy to convince yourself that the ends justify the means

As the pendulum swings back we get periods of balance in society but it always ends up going too far in some direction.