Message from @Ironclad

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2019-09-26 03:51:46 UTC  

By the same rational, you should be able to produce studies correlating granite and skin cancer

2019-09-26 03:52:19 UTC  

If the EPA felt the need to publish something about granite COUNTERTOPS, then clearly they're a hazard.

2019-09-26 03:52:27 UTC  

Especially if you have a shitload of it.

2019-09-26 03:53:20 UTC  

So granite increases skin cancer in specifically Chile by over 30% coincidentally after the oxone hole in the southern hemisphere occureD?

2019-09-26 03:53:57 UTC  

It's probably part of it, yeah, it could very well be a huge contributor. It damn sure isn't the sun, there are way sunnier places than Chile.

2019-09-26 03:54:09 UTC  

Especially given that Chile is a mountainous region.

2019-09-26 03:55:19 UTC  

Do you have a source for the rock compositions of Chile?

2019-09-26 03:55:27 UTC  

Regardless, the only solution to 'stop consuming' is 'die'.

2019-09-26 03:55:47 UTC  

You're not wrong, but obviously that isn't the solution

2019-09-26 03:56:10 UTC  

The issue with climate change and resource shortages is that the solutions are just as complex as the issues

2019-09-26 03:56:20 UTC  

And equally as undesirable

2019-09-26 03:56:50 UTC  

What was the obvious solutions?
Reduced population = less resource requirement

2019-09-26 03:56:53 UTC  

That creates lots of issues

2019-09-26 03:57:04 UTC  

aging populations, impossible to legislate world wide

2019-09-26 03:57:24 UTC  

Luckily world fertility is decreasing with nearly all developed nations below replacement rate

2019-09-26 03:59:42 UTC  

@Ironclad
"It's probably part of it, yeah, it could very well be a huge contributor. It damn sure isn't the sun, there are way sunnier places than Chile.
Especially given that Chile is a mountainous region."
The sun is radiating radiation constantly, the radiation the the ozone hole is unable to reduce is predominately UV-b in relation to skin cancer. During the polar vortex, the ozone hole in the southern hemisphere gets much much larger and tendrils of this hole pass over Chile. Some of the first health issues of ozone depletion was a surge in skin cancer of Chile.

2019-09-26 04:00:23 UTC  

Trying to find a video that shows it

2019-09-26 04:00:59 UTC  

This is the best I can find

2019-09-26 04:03:18 UTC  

Chile is 80% mountain range, so that means that most of the country is in the higher parts of the atmosphere, so there's less protection from the sun. A lot of them are volcanic or formerly volcanic, so there's another major contributing factor. Honestly, you're not going to find any single given factor, but the incredibly volcanic nature of it alone means that place probably causes your Geiger counter to go off.

2019-09-26 04:03:36 UTC  

They're more likely to live on the coast then on the top of a mountain

2019-09-26 04:04:09 UTC  

As if that means anything, you do realize that a mountain has a tremendous effect on the local environment, right?

2019-09-26 04:04:14 UTC  

It's odd that you think this is exclusively a granite issue

2019-09-26 04:04:26 UTC  

The hot granite radon release could have a part

2019-09-26 04:04:30 UTC  

I said it was probably a significant contributing factor.

2019-09-26 04:04:31 UTC  

But it would have been constant

2019-09-26 04:04:40 UTC  

Why would the skin cancer suddenly increasE?

2019-09-26 04:04:57 UTC  

Why specifically skin cancer and not lung cancer where these dusts and gases will enter your body?

2019-09-26 04:05:54 UTC  

Maybe they're doing some mining? Do you honestly think that humans are solely responsible for all of the environment's issues?

2019-09-26 04:06:46 UTC  

No singular factor is responsible for this. It can't be. And no amount of the west cleaning up will unfuck Asia.

2019-09-26 04:07:14 UTC  

That's why it's a global issue

2019-09-26 04:07:26 UTC  

Then talk to China and India. And good fucking luck.

2019-09-26 04:07:31 UTC  

But you can't just say
"Oh well those two are a bigger issue so I won't take any part in this"

2019-09-26 04:07:42 UTC  

You're right

2019-09-26 04:07:43 UTC  

I can, actually.

2019-09-26 04:07:45 UTC  

It's a big issue

2019-09-26 04:07:49 UTC  

Actually yes we can say that, because we're not the ones causing the damage

2019-09-26 04:07:55 UTC  

I can totally do that. Especially because people won't fucking switch to nuclear.

2019-09-26 04:08:01 UTC  

^

2019-09-26 04:08:09 UTC  

I agree with nuclear, it's dumb we don't want it at all