Message from @Death in June
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8) @Terry Arcona In response to the @ .. I want to believe that people *aren't* retarded enough to require a state (structure).. but as faithful as I am in humanity's potential.. I don't have *that* much faith.
i.e. Bioshock problem
If you bribe the cops here the risk consequences. In Ancap world the privatized police or bodyguards would only serve the highest bidder.
@ManAnimal a free one!
a free one what?
@Terry Arcona I mean what do you mean better? and yes private solutions are often more efficient and effective but they have less accountability to most people and way more accountability for a select few
accountability cost money
@Death in June wrong I'm talking about small communty laws enforced by private security
and you have more than one bosss
which means they could just become rogue armies
in AnCap there is no state
no accountability
It's a "one day" maybe sorta of ideal (AnCap).. but as things are?
Mob rule.
Got it
and what does one do on a 48hr op? <:hyperthink:462282519883284480>
with no state, then what stops those hired for security from TAKING rather than TRADING?
A lot of this sorta thing i settle on is/ought.
yeah and these small communities exist within states, yes?
why pay when you have alll the guns and superior skills to fight?
I mean if the security companies just occupied a local community and ruled over the local populace
who's going to stop em?
and are subject to the laws enforced by the police force of the state?
the state has the authority of for security
Ought is nice, but *is*.. well.. is what we needsmust focus on.
which has conditions outside of money
@Muten lol implying the current state is accountable hahahaha
ie. outside the mechanisms of trade
the only counter I've heard to "rogue armies" and "security company occupation" is just "people wouldn't appreciate it" which means???
don't confuse theory with implementation
Plus whose going to break up the monopolies? In an Ancap society that'd be a larger problem than we have today.
you can't compare a theortical ancap society to the implementation of a rep republic
@Terry Arcona Well they are accountable to more people, less accountable in general but equally accountable to the general public
theoretical representation republic vs theoretical ancap society
so, in theory, a state SHOULD be accountable
applies in both situations
If you want a 100% free market with 0 govt monopolies will ruin the economy more than it has now.
but the mechanisms of accountablity used by a traditional state lay outside the mechanisms of trade
not so in the ancap world
so how do you prevent one from using the other as leverage?