Message from @Death in June

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2019-07-12 06:07:18 UTC  

Thing is that sans wider gov't anti-trust laws in place gets to the same badness.

2019-07-12 06:07:26 UTC  

the KEY difference is that while i can describe the ideal mechanisms of capitalism they cannot describe the ideal mechanisms of communism

2019-07-12 06:08:14 UTC  

I'll give you that.. ergo why I caveated I know what you mean.

2019-07-12 06:08:18 UTC  

capitalism rests of 'capital being a storage of value' and any implementation would lay along a spectrum of how well it acheives that metric

2019-07-12 06:08:37 UTC  

ah, ok

2019-07-12 06:08:47 UTC  

@Terry Arcona what qualities would a society have to have for it to count as anarcho-capitalist

2019-07-12 06:08:56 UTC  

hey,, I thought you died last month?

2019-07-12 06:09:16 UTC  

@Terry Arcona Most of us are trying to find out how to make AnCap work, TBH.

2019-07-12 06:09:19 UTC  

my heart did

2019-07-12 06:09:25 UTC  

In fact read up on Rockefeller he accomplished his monopoly with colliding with other companies.

2019-07-12 06:09:38 UTC  

I really want the idea to be functional... but I just don't see how.

2019-07-12 06:09:59 UTC  

personally, I would LOVE to be the electrical engineer that developed the first cloaking device and create Galt's Gulch with it

2019-07-12 06:10:06 UTC  

but... Dreams vs Reality

2019-07-12 06:10:12 UTC  

be sure not to confuse

2019-07-12 06:10:47 UTC  

As I've said numerous times is/ought.

2019-07-12 06:11:11 UTC  

the idea doesn't really seem coherent to me

2019-07-12 06:11:23 UTC  

also, how about this observation: "I swear by my life and my love of it, that I shall never work solely for the sake of another man...."

2019-07-12 06:11:26 UTC  

Ought AnCap be able to function in ideal? Yes. Is humanity able to make it so? As Death in June just said.. doesn't seem to be.

2019-07-12 06:11:36 UTC  

^^^ can this saying be applied to both MEN and WOMEN?

2019-07-12 06:11:36 UTC  

i don't agree with the first part

2019-07-12 06:11:44 UTC  

capitalism is inherently anti-anarchist

2019-07-12 06:11:50 UTC  

or does one have to devout themselves to the family for it to work?

2019-07-12 06:11:58 UTC  

sticky question

2019-07-12 06:12:16 UTC  

Eh, I'll give any ideal a shake.

2019-07-12 06:12:16 UTC  

Ancaps are more unreasonable then commies

2019-07-12 06:12:28 UTC  

?

2019-07-12 06:12:29 UTC  

the only way i could see it making sense is if anarchism was just being used as a synonym for a high level of decentralization

2019-07-12 06:12:50 UTC  

I'd even say, "Ought Communism able to function? Yes. Will it? See history."

2019-07-12 06:12:53 UTC  

capital is easier to steal than slave labor

2019-07-12 06:13:16 UTC  

also easy to trade

2019-07-12 06:13:21 UTC  

thus the point

2019-07-12 06:13:39 UTC  

(History replies: Not just no, but hell no.)

2019-07-12 06:13:52 UTC  

@Death in June the people would have to be more responsoiible as they were more like in the 1800s in america, there would have to be decentralised means of record keeping and contracts and perhaps most importantly of all many services provided by government today would have to have private companies pick up the slack, example, private company for road mantence, private securty companies, private fire departments

2019-07-12 06:13:58 UTC  

Whereas AnCap the historical answer is... .... ... maybe?

2019-07-12 06:14:12 UTC  

read my profile

2019-07-12 06:14:16 UTC  

Rational Man Animal

2019-07-12 06:14:24 UTC  

in the REVERSE order

2019-07-12 06:14:32 UTC  

thus commie = animal

2019-07-12 06:14:36 UTC  

@Laucivol that's cool, atleast you're open minded to it

2019-07-12 06:14:43 UTC  

rational is at the top of the pyramid

2019-07-12 06:14:53 UTC  

So again I just have to take your word and hope companies are benevolent enough not to form monopolies.