Message from @Laucivol
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Okay
exactly Laucvioui
So they don't have an answer
they focus on the shit implementation
We just have to take their word.
rather than comparing ideal to ideal first
Alright, the thing about as said monopolies still form.. and have even more power than they would under mixed economies.
corruption is everywhere, we know. but ideally, for the sake of comparison, we pretend it doesn't exist so we can assess the merits of ancap vs republic
They would nothing would stop them. Even though we have monopolies only a few really get away with forming them.
(@ManAnimal "Capitalism hasn't been done right, yet." I know what you mean, but it falls into the same problem as the fierce Communists there.)
not sure what you mean exactly but i do agree in general
@ManAnimal the biggest corruption is seen between corporate back room deals with government
eliminate government you take away alot of the corruption
Thing is that sans wider gov't anti-trust laws in place gets to the same badness.
the KEY difference is that while i can describe the ideal mechanisms of capitalism they cannot describe the ideal mechanisms of communism
I'll give you that.. ergo why I caveated I know what you mean.
capitalism rests of 'capital being a storage of value' and any implementation would lay along a spectrum of how well it acheives that metric
ah, ok
@Terry Arcona what qualities would a society have to have for it to count as anarcho-capitalist
hey,, I thought you died last month?
my heart did
In fact read up on Rockefeller he accomplished his monopoly with colliding with other companies.
I really want the idea to be functional... but I just don't see how.
personally, I would LOVE to be the electrical engineer that developed the first cloaking device and create Galt's Gulch with it
but... Dreams vs Reality
be sure not to confuse
As I've said numerous times is/ought.
the idea doesn't really seem coherent to me
also, how about this observation: "I swear by my life and my love of it, that I shall never work solely for the sake of another man...."
Ought AnCap be able to function in ideal? Yes. Is humanity able to make it so? As Death in June just said.. doesn't seem to be.
^^^ can this saying be applied to both MEN and WOMEN?
i don't agree with the first part
capitalism is inherently anti-anarchist
or does one have to devout themselves to the family for it to work?
sticky question
Eh, I'll give any ideal a shake.
Ancaps are more unreasonable then commies
?
the only way i could see it making sense is if anarchism was just being used as a synonym for a high level of decentralization
I'd even say, "Ought Communism able to function? Yes. Will it? See history."