Message from @Terry Arcona

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2019-07-12 06:10:06 UTC  

but... Dreams vs Reality

2019-07-12 06:10:12 UTC  

be sure not to confuse

2019-07-12 06:10:47 UTC  

As I've said numerous times is/ought.

2019-07-12 06:11:11 UTC  

the idea doesn't really seem coherent to me

2019-07-12 06:11:23 UTC  

also, how about this observation: "I swear by my life and my love of it, that I shall never work solely for the sake of another man...."

2019-07-12 06:11:26 UTC  

Ought AnCap be able to function in ideal? Yes. Is humanity able to make it so? As Death in June just said.. doesn't seem to be.

2019-07-12 06:11:36 UTC  

^^^ can this saying be applied to both MEN and WOMEN?

2019-07-12 06:11:36 UTC  

i don't agree with the first part

2019-07-12 06:11:44 UTC  

capitalism is inherently anti-anarchist

2019-07-12 06:11:50 UTC  

or does one have to devout themselves to the family for it to work?

2019-07-12 06:11:58 UTC  

sticky question

2019-07-12 06:12:16 UTC  

Eh, I'll give any ideal a shake.

2019-07-12 06:12:16 UTC  

Ancaps are more unreasonable then commies

2019-07-12 06:12:28 UTC  

?

2019-07-12 06:12:29 UTC  

the only way i could see it making sense is if anarchism was just being used as a synonym for a high level of decentralization

2019-07-12 06:12:50 UTC  

I'd even say, "Ought Communism able to function? Yes. Will it? See history."

2019-07-12 06:12:53 UTC  

capital is easier to steal than slave labor

2019-07-12 06:13:16 UTC  

also easy to trade

2019-07-12 06:13:21 UTC  

thus the point

2019-07-12 06:13:39 UTC  

(History replies: Not just no, but hell no.)

2019-07-12 06:13:52 UTC  

@Death in June the people would have to be more responsoiible as they were more like in the 1800s in america, there would have to be decentralised means of record keeping and contracts and perhaps most importantly of all many services provided by government today would have to have private companies pick up the slack, example, private company for road mantence, private securty companies, private fire departments

2019-07-12 06:13:58 UTC  

Whereas AnCap the historical answer is... .... ... maybe?

2019-07-12 06:14:12 UTC  

read my profile

2019-07-12 06:14:16 UTC  

Rational Man Animal

2019-07-12 06:14:24 UTC  

in the REVERSE order

2019-07-12 06:14:32 UTC  

thus commie = animal

2019-07-12 06:14:36 UTC  

@Laucivol that's cool, atleast you're open minded to it

2019-07-12 06:14:43 UTC  

rational is at the top of the pyramid

2019-07-12 06:14:53 UTC  

So again I just have to take your word and hope companies are benevolent enough not to form monopolies.

2019-07-12 06:14:56 UTC  

hard to stay there when survival is at stake

2019-07-12 06:15:24 UTC  

And my experience of corporations is not so much.

2019-07-12 06:15:44 UTC  

I cannot trust a company to have my best interest at hand.

2019-07-12 06:16:04 UTC  

well, the problem is that a corporation MUST by law place the profit of share holders ABOVE all other concerns

2019-07-12 06:16:04 UTC  

Nor can I trust a sovereignty to have my best interest at hand.

2019-07-12 06:16:16 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/598761542200197120/599121829717737472/D_NEfZdUIAEigmY.png

2019-07-12 06:16:25 UTC  

thus if the company can break the law but profit more than the fine....

2019-07-12 06:16:35 UTC  

they are required to break the law

2019-07-12 06:16:39 UTC  

you see the paradox

2019-07-12 06:17:12 UTC  

Also yes I want to have options to skim through as my house is burning to the ground.

2019-07-12 06:17:34 UTC  

(Even GodManAnimalEmperor wants AnCap to make sense, by the by... but we still don't see the result as net positive versus what's before us.)

2019-07-12 06:17:35 UTC  

that is the one flaw with the market