tbh, the modern west has gotten a lot better in the past 100 years, even more drasticly in the last few years

the problem is the global systems

Even if it isn't there isn't an argument against democracy with 30 or 50 year terms over monarchy

sure there is

that prevent long term solutions for a single culture or even a single community

redneo yes and no

but term limits are pretty gay

socially its falling apart

Goal is just to get a town of a few thousand people and start growing at a rapid clip. If you have an insular culture, never put up signs on any of the gas stations or restaurants, avoid talking to outsiders, you'll end up being known as this "unfriendly cult-like place that people would rather avoid."

Meanwhile you keep growing and growing.

inb4 u get waco'd

Nah, you don't need compounds. Just don't put signs on anything.

the mormons used to have their own independent state

@Arthur Grayborn you'd get invaded by neolib types wanting to exploit fertile lands with "economic growth"

Now the Mormon Church is one of the wealthiest organizations in the country.

this is only because the mormons as an ethnoreligious group are vastly superior to the rest of america

@Muten - Neolib types have already told the rural areas to go to hell, because they think the entire area should be surrendered to either nature or some farming robots.

@Tato maybe. and maybe thats a good thing. i certainly dont see any other society as more desirable. There never has been a nonfeminist society on this planet

though i suppose this could play into what you're getting at

Is Mormonism relatively new or am I thinking of something else?

@Arthur Grayborn those rural areas are simply just not profitable enough yet, but you are thinking bigger no?

ehh u got a wrong idea on past

Eventually it will become profitable

@Muten - If you've got an insular culture, they never will be profitable.

mormonism is from the early 19th century

Mid-1800s, if I'm not mistaken.

the 1800's are in the past you know

1820's

@Tato how so?

weve talked about that

Yeah, and I'm not proposing a short term fix.

that was during a semi feudal system

this is the present

it wasnt feminist it was focused on survival

not the past

and u need women for survival

or they needed

@Tato i mean you can see how it is in islamic countries to this day with men being complete slaves to women

There's a lot no one here is taking into account which is technology

These solutions might work as the world is but

muslims are slaves of ideology both men and women

If you fuck off to some backwater area, never advertise, never put up signs, and take pride in not being friendly towards outsiders, then nobody is ever going to want to go there. Just make sure you steadily build more and more gated communities, so you'll end up with this iron wall of "Don't come here" staring people in the face.