Message from @ManAnimal
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whart part of a mixed economy is socialist?
As well as anti-Communist
yeah but you dont hear people describing their political views as in "Yeah im just a capitalist"
If the alt-right was economics, Richard Spencer would be a Social Darwinist and Ben Shapiro would be a Regulatory State Capitalist.
Its always one sect of it
also, don't confuse economy and economics
opps government
@Vir - Most people are capitalist though, even among the left.
China & USSR both communist govs but one utilized a totally planned economy
Yeah but they dont just call themselves capitalists
It's just that they usually embrace one particular form of capitalism.
Welfare capitalism is extremely popular among the Silicon Valley elites.
Regulated capitalism among most of your ordinary conservatives.
Laissez Faire tends to be an extreme libertarian view.
capitalist isnt an ideology
Ancap is Laissez Faire with an even stronger anti-government bent.
Laissez Faire is also more a theory than an implementation
Good video
further, once you added the Federal Reserve to regulate interest rates, Capitalism behaves differently
and derivatives make it posible to profit from failure without penalty for hoarding capital
@Ϻ14ᛟ - ...and how many people on the left would describe Milo Yiannopoulos, the Proud Boys, and Carl Benjamin as alt-right? You can change it as much as you want, but if you're a dissenting conservative then you're pretty much alt-right.
It's an umbrella term, and it should be rightly recognized as a broad term. "Very conservative, but not mainstream."
point is, there is 'ideal captialism' and then the shitty implementations
Yeah, and communists would argue the same.
Trotskyism, Stalinism, and Maoism are all different in their implementation, while sharing a lot of commonalities.
@Arthur Grayborn It doesn't matter how other people describe them. Reality matters. There is people who know what Alt Right means and identify with it and all those people are White Nationalist Third Positionists.
Milo, Proud Boys and Sargon are all Alt Lite, not Alt Right.
no,because there has never been a successful commuinist implementation
the capitalist system has been altered
and even the altereations have shown success
Just saying capitalism isnt ever a fair comparison unless its just to another large whole like socialism
Communism has been tried, quite successfully, in small religious communities. There are tons of insular monasteries that grow their own food, and produce goods to help subsidize their operation. All community owned and operated. Private property is effectively limited to what you keep in your own bedroom.
especially compared to socialism which fails regardless of implmentation
commununism is parasitic
Milo, PB and Sargon aren’t alt lite.
Alt lite doesn’t exist.
Like when people talk about just fascism, youre fucking retarded there is a shit ton of wildly different types of fascism your statements mean nothing
it can only work by leeching off of an external group's resources
same with fascism
@Ϻ14ᛟ how would you categorize people like ramzpaul? the classic "alt-right adjacent"? He's a bit closer than alt-lite folks tend to be
@ManAnimal - A lot of Catholic Monasteries operate on a communist mode, producing their own goods and selling some to subsidize their operation. Many of them are self-sufficient.
A lot of Jewish Yeshivas were the same way, at least for a while.
both couldn't exist without leeching off of investment from the more prosperous
“Alt lite” a term used to describe people we don’t like for whom “alt right” is far too preposterous.
the catholic church funded them
Not all of these communities have a benefactor.
When communism works, you typically see it in connection with hyper-religious communities.