Message from @ManAnimal

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2019-07-16 04:15:32 UTC  

Socialism fails because they try to create objective facts out of arbitrary values

2019-07-16 04:15:32 UTC  

@Vir ah hadn't actually heard of him. I haven't read as much Traditionalist literature as I have Fascist since it incorporates a lot of the good ideas traditionalism has into it most of the time anyway.

2019-07-16 04:15:35 UTC  

they were QUESTIONS

2019-07-16 04:15:53 UTC  

@Arthur Grayborn notice how I wasn't tagging you

2019-07-16 04:16:01 UTC  

That's because I wasn't talking to you

2019-07-16 04:16:08 UTC  

burrecrats doing what?

2019-07-16 04:16:16 UTC  

πŸ‘πŸ»

2019-07-16 04:16:29 UTC  

read Evola if you havent its wacky and borderline crazy a lot of the time

2019-07-16 04:16:33 UTC  

but id you look past that

2019-07-16 04:16:42 UTC  

the base ideas are atleast interesting

2019-07-16 04:16:45 UTC  

@randomNPCno3 - Socialism fails because when you replace corporate management with government management, the result is always a shitshow. Government competence is so rare, that we only really use the government in cases where contractors and privatization would be even worse.

2019-07-16 04:17:09 UTC  

the problem with theory or acedemics is they think they know how something works but once the take so mething apart, there are SO many pieces they don't know what they do

2019-07-16 04:17:42 UTC  

Holy shit, it's almost like you should've just kept the government as a method of regulating the companies

2019-07-16 04:17:44 UTC  

what is management though?

2019-07-16 04:17:49 UTC  

Fucking hell

2019-07-16 04:18:03 UTC  

@ManAnimal - It's because academics rely on certain assumptions for their theory to work.

"If we have the government run everything, things will be so much better?"

They never bother to ask: "...but what if the government isn't competent, and you've just given them control of the entire food supply?"

2019-07-16 04:18:16 UTC  

these are blanket terms that completely change meaning when you change the system the operate under

2019-07-16 04:18:39 UTC  

If a socialist tried to make a cake, they'd reverse engineer fecal matter into batter. Fucking hell you idiots think backwards

2019-07-16 04:18:43 UTC  

governement never even in the USSR ran everthing

2019-07-16 04:18:49 UTC  

they manage everthing

2019-07-16 04:18:53 UTC  

they direct

2019-07-16 04:19:22 UTC  

they don't do the work

2019-07-16 04:19:28 UTC  

that is for the plebes

2019-07-16 04:19:41 UTC  

The USSR appointed managers to run things on the local level, @ManAnimal.

Those managers were typically inefficient, corrupt, and incompetent.

2019-07-16 04:19:42 UTC  

>let's design a system where the government runs everything, instead of regulating
>literally can only point to hippie communes

2019-07-16 04:19:59 UTC  

@Reprehensibletrash - Religious monasteries.

Catholic.

2019-07-16 04:20:05 UTC  

they called them 'managers' but their job was nothing like managers in the west

2019-07-16 04:20:10 UTC  

Because that worked so well

2019-07-16 04:20:25 UTC  

They did.

2019-07-16 04:20:25 UTC  

just like east germany and china are 'people's republics'

2019-07-16 04:20:35 UTC  

Jeez, if only everyone lived like a fucking monk, man

2019-07-16 04:20:36 UTC  

not the same meaning

2019-07-16 04:20:37 UTC  

lol that image was fucking nothing

2019-07-16 04:20:40 UTC  

The monasteries were also populated by extremely devoted people who chose to be there.

2019-07-16 04:20:43 UTC  

the harry potter thing

2019-07-16 04:20:47 UTC  

wtf...

2019-07-16 04:20:49 UTC  

It was opt-in, and not everyone got to go.

2019-07-16 04:21:13 UTC  

@Vir I've read Metaphysics of War, Revolt against the Modern World, Fascism viewed from the Right and I have listened to half the audiobook of The Mystery of the Grail (even though its mostly BS, its fun to listen to as a myth). Beyond that not sure if you'd consider Spengler a traditionalist and Yockey's renewal of Spengler was more of a Fascist imo. Haven't read anything else from actual old Traditionalists IIRC. Depends on how loose the definition is.

2019-07-16 04:21:13 UTC  

lol nice pic

2019-07-16 04:21:31 UTC  

@Vir that was good