Message from @Muten

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2019-07-19 04:34:58 UTC  

it's a lens

2019-07-19 04:35:01 UTC  

right?

2019-07-19 04:35:25 UTC  

My mum literally did this when I said I wanted to read Mein Kampf so I can understand extremism better, the first thing she did was look up a psychologist who had analyzed and dissected the book so I could read that instead. I almost went like "bitch what?" 😄

2019-07-19 04:35:33 UTC  

Okay let’s assume you do. Then one source may explain it well and another badly based on how they interpret it. You don’t actually engage with the whole ideas in themselves. You just get fragments

2019-07-19 04:35:36 UTC  

No

2019-07-19 04:35:57 UTC  

Utilitarianism is, very roughly, the idea that the ends of a moral system justify the means

2019-07-19 04:35:59 UTC  

ETBROOD was like MGTOW bitch gimme that book

2019-07-19 04:36:13 UTC  

Ok yeah

2019-07-19 04:36:17 UTC  

Nah, gotta read the source to prevent radicalization.

2019-07-19 04:36:17 UTC  

I can understand that

2019-07-19 04:36:29 UTC  

I can skim pretty well

2019-07-19 04:36:45 UTC  

But trying to read just gets me confused

2019-07-19 04:36:46 UTC  

So is killing 10 people okay to save your wife?

2019-07-19 04:36:52 UTC  

radicalization is the only way to get anything done tho. no one pays attention to mundane nuanced debate these days

2019-07-19 04:36:58 UTC  

No I don't agree with utilitarianism

2019-07-19 04:37:11 UTC  

I think it's a lens to use when making a desicion

2019-07-19 04:37:14 UTC  

or something like that

2019-07-19 04:37:20 UTC  

No.

2019-07-19 04:37:22 UTC  

I fucking hate these terms

2019-07-19 04:37:28 UTC  

It’s a way to think of moral philosophy

2019-07-19 04:37:29 UTC  

They make everything confusing

2019-07-19 04:37:29 UTC  

Gotta be able to looks at Mein Kampf and go, "Okay, see where you're at and coming from, Hitler... how the fuck did you get *there*, though!?"

2019-07-19 04:37:37 UTC  

It IS a moral philosophy

2019-07-19 04:37:50 UTC  

Yes but you can use it as a lens tho

2019-07-19 04:37:55 UTC  

“radicalization is the only way to get anything done tho. no one pays attention to mundane nuanced debate these days”

2019-07-19 04:37:58 UTC  

Not true

2019-07-19 04:38:00 UTC  

@Laucivol exactly

2019-07-19 04:38:02 UTC  

I still need to buy a copy.

2019-07-19 04:38:06 UTC  

it is true whether you like it or not

2019-07-19 04:38:09 UTC  

need to understand virtue as strength and sin as weakness to get how and why Utilitarianism could be called a moral philosophy

2019-07-19 04:38:19 UTC  

or terms similar to these

2019-07-19 04:38:32 UTC  

Marxism and Egoism both sprung out of the nuances of Hegel’s philosophy

2019-07-19 04:38:38 UTC  

you can continue to debate and so on. meanwhile the battles will be fought and won/lost by those who are on a side.

2019-07-19 04:38:39 UTC  

They are VERY opposed

2019-07-19 04:38:44 UTC  

(Spoiler: He got there because desperate times demand desperate measures.)

2019-07-19 04:39:05 UTC  

He got there by being an uneducated idiot

2019-07-19 04:39:06 UTC  

theres nothing you can do to stop the dominos falling

2019-07-19 04:39:17 UTC  

Shoulda let more people explain things to him 😄 😄 😄

2019-07-19 04:39:32 UTC  

I try to avoid extremism

2019-07-19 04:39:42 UTC  

The dominos are set by philosophy though

2019-07-19 04:39:47 UTC  

I hard core believe in refrom