Message from @Muten
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No
I think it's a good tool
Actually can talk with kids about Pewdiepie .. (I'm a Sunday school teacher).
I think
it's a lens
right?
My mum literally did this when I said I wanted to read Mein Kampf so I can understand extremism better, the first thing she did was look up a psychologist who had analyzed and dissected the book so I could read that instead. I almost went like "bitch what?" 😄
Okay let’s assume you do. Then one source may explain it well and another badly based on how they interpret it. You don’t actually engage with the whole ideas in themselves. You just get fragments
No
Utilitarianism is, very roughly, the idea that the ends of a moral system justify the means
ETBROOD was like MGTOW bitch gimme that book
Ok yeah
Nah, gotta read the source to prevent radicalization.
I can understand that
I can skim pretty well
But trying to read just gets me confused
So is killing 10 people okay to save your wife?
radicalization is the only way to get anything done tho. no one pays attention to mundane nuanced debate these days
No I don't agree with utilitarianism
or something like that
No.
I fucking hate these terms
It’s a way to think of moral philosophy
They make everything confusing
Gotta be able to looks at Mein Kampf and go, "Okay, see where you're at and coming from, Hitler... how the fuck did you get *there*, though!?"
It IS a moral philosophy
Yes but you can use it as a lens tho
“radicalization is the only way to get anything done tho. no one pays attention to mundane nuanced debate these days”
Not true
I still need to buy a copy.
it is true whether you like it or not
need to understand virtue as strength and sin as weakness to get how and why Utilitarianism could be called a moral philosophy
or terms similar to these
Marxism and Egoism both sprung out of the nuances of Hegel’s philosophy
you can continue to debate and so on. meanwhile the battles will be fought and won/lost by those who are on a side.
They are VERY opposed
(Spoiler: He got there because desperate times demand desperate measures.)
He got there by being an uneducated idiot