the frankish knights

crushed the seljuks

if you give the bully a bloody nose, he tends to leave you alone

the seljuks took forever to recover

if you let him hassle you, you get hassled more

muslims understand this

and their string of victories since manzikert

were halted

we have forgotten

likewise

The Mongols hurt the Caliphate far more then the crusades ever did tbh

fighting the arabs on their own turf

prevented them from invading europe

as an aside

well, 'fighting' and 'exploiting' are different

@Tonight at 11 - DOOM youre forgetting the norman conquest of sicily

I'm not forgetting

It's not that I don't get the benifit of death, it's that you don't get the benifit of reform

this does not go against my point

at least not very much

Get them fighting each other. They stop fighting us.

Blood can only be repaid with more blood

the Khans deleted Baghdad, lol

the khans deleted a lot of people

yes

true

including the mudslimes

@Scale_e they fight eachother because they don't need to fight us

yes

also the chinks

the persians

lol

the indians

chinks

mongols were impressive

sometimes luci is funny.....

their successor states were more impressive

She's not

just incredibly racist

kek

so?