So the time required will likely be accelerated

@Laucivol Mao was wrong.... about a lot of things.

@Laucivol only peasants died under mao

if the urbanite chinks died en masse

theyd change their tune

communist gov is playing both sides against each other; creates a limited affluent class to use western capitalism to fund their develoipment whille leving the rest as peasants

Which is the group that needs to rebel - the peasants.

No.

most of chinas population is urbanite tho

then when world economy tanks (always does), they turn to peasants and go < "see. capitalism bad. communism good"

A common "problem" with westerners is that you seem to think that Liberalism must always produce the best outcomes by definition (at least long term). You literally have no clue how to even begin to deal with a system that isn;t like your own, but it still works, and perhaps even beats yours in some ways.

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The group that needs to rebel in China is - high level party members who think they can get ahead by whipping up a starving people into a frenzy.
Then you get your overthrow.
...straight into another kind of despotism.

they won't

someone told me that blacks commit more crime cuz of economic discrimination.. then i said well.. how about the rape

despotism isnt a bad thing

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sexual discrimination

checkmate

50%+ of rape is done by 13% of the population... but its cuz of socio-economics

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Your belief in rationalism would dictate you'd have to adopt the nu system, but you actually BELIEVE in Liberalism (despite how much you pretend to be atheistic) so you cannot do that. And thus you short-circuit...

Those in the East don't think like Westerners. They aren't rasied to value individualism. they value the group first and have a duty to that group

@UnScottable *socio economics

You need the monies to get the honeys.
They got no monies, they rape your honeys.

...is the logic they’ll throw back at you to defend, yes, even rape, if it’s tinged with *gasp* racism!

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@Tonight at 11 - DOOM WTF are you saying?

Doom is right about Liberalists not being able to fathom those that don't operate nor view the world like they do

You end up saying that China totally will collapse any day. For 50 years. Non stop. Any day now.

it's why the Left has controlled them for so long

are you saying socialism is better?

no

never

Nope

I'm saying westerners (not only westerners ofc, but in this case that is the topic) are very close minded

i am saying that from a strategy perspective, communism is like a military hiearchy

because they think they are the opposite

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and cannot fathom their own limitations, because they are sure they rejected them

but that is just impossible

and remember groups effect change more than individuals