Which is even more detail.

Ty

8Values is pretty good though. A lot better than the absolute joke that Political Compass is

It's...

More in depth.

And not so black and white.

But the 9 axes...

Oof.

That's even more detail.

219 Questions.

So if you really wanna get clear.

https://9axes.github.io/

Go ahead.

There's a question of "the benefits of open borders would outweight the cost"

I'm like "sure". Then my slav ass realizes that the "closed border" opposite of the open border in this question is what I understand by open border <:pepelaugh:544857300179877898>

Fucking 'murican commies

Open borders means you can't really regulate who comes in and out. Easy to get couped.

I'd imagine 15 Million Russians just fly over.

i have talked to someone who genuinely thinks a flood of lower class people will make your country's current low class magically turn into middle class

If we were a racialist society, yes.

But that's not how it works anymore. The white man is equal and will be just as low as they were before, if not lower.

It seems whoever you spoke to, thinks like a racist from the 1960s.

we were referring to financial class like poor and middle class

though the same amount of stupidity i guess

Yeah I know but he's assuming foreigner lower class coming in would somehow raise either the citizen class there already.

@Ankelaos Yea, it's just over here, open borders kinda means "wow, you can cross the border and leave your country without getting shot at" <:smugon:512048583806025739>

And it's your army doing the shooting.

My army?

Yes

Where do you think I'm from?

No idea, is that relevant?

It seems to be with your assumptions.

We're not shooting Somali's or Frenchmen here.

We actually let them in. We just boot them out if they're illegal later.

Turns out I’m for social democracy

And believe me, I've seen enough to know they are not very common. The illegals that is.

The "your army" is not global, it pertains to the meaning of open borders for someone from a post-communist country, the theoretical construct placing you in a role of someone who would try and leave during communism

You just overthought an offhand pronoun, basically

I don’t think it’s right for economic view though

I’m very pro free market in the right industries

I mean... Berlin was getting deserted because of Communism.

They had to put a wall up, remember?