Message from @Vander Loonéy

Discord ID: 604375963098152960


2019-07-26 18:09:03 UTC  

Frankly, I am of the opinion that "If you arent intelligent to discover it for yourself, you have no business using it"

2019-07-26 18:09:48 UTC  

Creative Destruction of an open market is slow. Currently, information is free.

2019-07-26 18:10:15 UTC  

But free is bad. It allows people to know just enough to be dangerous without having to grasp the fundamentaals

2019-07-26 18:10:22 UTC  

No its not free, you pay with your privacy and your data

2019-07-26 18:10:28 UTC  

So slow is good for society in my view

2019-07-26 18:10:42 UTC  

well, privacy don't have a cost

2019-07-26 18:10:51 UTC  

lol the next world war will end the world you guise

2019-07-26 18:10:52 UTC  

it never will as long as information has no value

2019-07-26 18:10:58 UTC  

Not an arbitrary one like money, no

2019-07-26 18:11:00 UTC  

einstein more like edge(((stein)))

2019-07-26 18:11:03 UTC  

and you are right

2019-07-26 18:11:27 UTC  

IF people PAID for twitter and facebook the law would protect them under the UCC

2019-07-26 18:11:34 UTC  

Privacy, in my opinion, is a much higher price to pay than a couple of bucks

2019-07-26 18:11:53 UTC  

but as no money changes hands, they can set whatever terms they like

2019-07-26 18:12:12 UTC  

including the theft of your private data

2019-07-26 18:12:41 UTC  

a receipt is viewed as a contract per common law

2019-07-26 18:13:02 UTC  

it is why some boomer STILL write checks

2019-07-26 18:13:29 UTC  

cause a check is really the only thing that definatively proves intent

2019-07-26 18:13:32 UTC  

True, but what of the long term cost? If we all hand over our privacy and terabytes of personal information to a single company?

2019-07-26 18:14:05 UTC  

Its dangerous

2019-07-26 18:14:18 UTC  

They can have my porn data. ^^

2019-07-26 18:14:21 UTC  

So you think an open market would allow them to still take our data?

2019-07-26 18:14:23 UTC  

it wouldn't

2019-07-26 18:14:50 UTC  

every additional thing they did would be subject to a contract

2019-07-26 18:15:37 UTC  

I mean, I don't know if you are aware to the extent the banks and CCs have been breaking the law and gettign away with it

2019-07-26 18:16:21 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/598761542200197120/604376471733272586/Grandma_bicycle.mp4

2019-07-26 18:16:34 UTC  

By law, they are required to keep a pen and ink copy of the contract you signed when you first got the card. You can then send a request by mail to review that contract at any time

2019-07-26 18:16:47 UTC  

But today, no credit card company KEEPS contracts

2019-07-26 18:17:00 UTC  

Cause that would hold them responsible as well

2019-07-26 18:17:17 UTC  

Look out, MA's setting out into pseudolegalese

2019-07-26 18:17:29 UTC  

My advice to anyone is, don't hand over your income to credit card companies.

2019-07-26 18:17:34 UTC  

they instead try to play off the ASSSUMPTION that because you paid a previous bill, you must pay the next

2019-07-26 18:17:39 UTC  

Instead budget and save

2019-07-26 18:17:54 UTC  

mine too, but the point is they are breaking the law

2019-07-26 18:17:55 UTC  

Income = prosperity

2019-07-26 18:18:10 UTC  

not if they can just take it when you piss them off

2019-07-26 18:18:36 UTC  

and the more we just let them normailze breaking the law, the worse it gets

2019-07-26 18:18:38 UTC  

Hmmm. yes

2019-07-26 18:18:38 UTC  

MA, this is the sort of legal arguments been used by people fighting bailiffs and stuff. All that ends up happening is the judiciary do some interpretting in light of modern reality and your argument becomes irrelevent

2019-07-26 18:18:53 UTC  

incorrect

2019-07-26 18:19:10 UTC  

I once challenged a card on the basis of the contract