more money is better; but if u are dead, what does it matter?

Humans are moving on this earth of ours, consuming energy and moving it about. All we take from it goes back. Earth is a closed system as humans 'products' goes.

I take better to mean greater biodiversity

it doesnt matter if the world would be better without us

we're in it to win it

no cause it took millenia to make a gallon of gasoline

well id say that one could objectively say that a parking garage does damage the planet to some degree. i mean its concrete over nature. however that doesnt mean a parking garage is inherently bad or evil

we each burn 100s of gallons that won't be back for another couple of millenia

oh, is that your complaint?

so go nuclear

its cleaner

What if every defendant or plaintiff had the option to accept the service of a public attorney... And the attorney gets a a cut of the winnings.

not a complaint just observation

im already nuclear *see what i did*

biology increased exponentially

resources linearly

remember, if bacteria in a dish DOUBLE every minute, exactly 1 minute before there is no more space at all, the dish will still be HALF empty

@ManAnimal there's caviats to that

means it's easy to cross a threshold where we have more people than we can keep up with and start killing each other off for what is left

All caveats deal with prime growth conditions.

*doubles every minute under optimum conditions* half filled isn't optimum

yea but bacteria wont invent sex robots <:thinking_clown:590855640268668928>

caveats are exceptions and N^2 is pretty concrete

How does that logic flow with the parking garage if i may ask? You could make an argument that rabbit eating a tree's bark causes damage to the planet.

"it does; humans don't reach equillibrum with the planet
they take but dont give back"
Ehh. Depends on what u mean. If you consider "the planet" in astronomical terms, ye we occasionally shoot an insignificantly small piece of it into outer space, but over all nothing that we do actually leaves the planet at all. We put some gas in the atmosphere. Ok... And? The atmosphere is till a part of the planet from that perspective... We don't reach an equilibrium with the biosphere would be more accurate to say I think, but why the hell would we want to reach that?! We've been there once already and have had the entirety of the history of civilization to get as far away from that point as we could. We don;t want to be in equilibrium with the biosphere... We want the biosphere to act the way it happens to suit us. We want hegemony over the biosphere...

Don't Diss bacteria they'll fuck you up

yes you could but its clear that the rabbit is doing less "harm" in this sense.. then the parking garage

but damaging the planet isnt inherently bad

The math is concrete, the reality is flubbed but still pretty solid.

here's the thing

how do humans give back to the biosphere more than they take?

My best friend is barry

i have no reason to care about rabbits

i just care about humanity

I'm not saying that they do

**fuck the planet**

@ManAnimal