but then the moral matter is the important bit anyway, the rest is fluff

and if we go the "a foetus is not a person" thing then the baby is a healthy part of the mother and removing it would be self harm

maybe

They're both important, in different levela

it certainly wouldn't be an illness

sure Cooltic, whatever u say

At the very least

@Jack of Trades In an aboriton, what is the action being taken? Killing a kid.
In a kidney transplant, what is the action being taken? Taking a kidney.
That is the action.
Both are morally wrong actions. (Assuming the kidney donor does not give consent, of course)

Good im glad we agree

It's grounds to ignore any and all bitching when states try to correct the problem caused by SC overreach

Ehhh, kidneys should be nationalized anyway...^^

But you're not allowed to force someone to use their body in any way ;)

Yes u can

That is an abstraction.

Precedent says you can

It's pony time, my white niggers

See you later to your boring discussion

Assisted self-harm is illegal

No lawmaker is saying "A pregnant woman has to do X"
They are saying "No doctor shall kill a kid"

Ofc the pedo is also a brony

Shits. Not. Complicated.

I've beenm arguing about holocaust denial a lot lately

Holocaust? More like

🅱olocaust

Amirite?

Did you come to the natural conclusion that Jews did 9/11?

ye

good

Holocaust happened.
Jews are fine.
9/11 wasnt an inside job, just an incredible fuckup.
LHO killed JFK.
We landed on the moon.
The earth is round.
Birds are real.

Birds are real spy drones.*

If the fetus can survive outside the womb, then it is a matter of law. If not - it the decision of parents. It also means that with advancements in medical technology, that time of personal choice would shrink. Eventually becoming a transplantation to an artificial womb.

I mean, its bananas, but it *is* my favorite nutso conspiracy theory

... my 2 cents

Glow in the dark, CIA magpies!

Currently that time is 5 month

@tereško Ive been saying that for a few years. The pro life should just argue viability. Eventually viability will *be* conception.

ye

i feel like leftists are becoming harder to separate from fucking Islamists