Message from @Tonight at 11 - DOOM
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so the only way to make it so non-abuse images to be illegal is to either over-broaden the law, or create a new law.
@NinjaQuick Only the creation.
this server https://tenor.com/view/tomoko-anime-gif-5447415
not really because laws are useless which you cannot realistically enforce
Distribution, too, used to be Grey market or even sold in adult stores.
and in order to enforce any law as you suggest, they would need 'just cause'
The law is more of a protection law
Quick question, are there mandatory minimums for sexual abuse of a minor?
The law was setup to stop the creation, not consumption of the material
not sure what you mean by 'protection law'
@SPOOKY Phil, Ruler of Heck ninja is over here going into the history of case law of pedophilic pictures
The consumption of the material has essentially no 'harm'
Whereas the creation does
So if a site is hosting a picture of a teen, and the person in the Pic wants it removed, they would be able to ask it to be removed.
because he just happens to have knowledge and wants to enlighten you!
the law is more of a law to protect the law?
Yes
But I kinda agree with you tbh
The issue of consuming it is the creation of a market where creation makes sense.
ah, yeah. that is a function of Libel Law
There's always going to be a market for it tbh
@Tonight at 11 - DOOM ninja wont hush about it
But the law was made with 'harm' in mind
ninja
Where does the most harm occur?
Look I believe in the free flow of information, all information
go fuck a kid already so that the state can lock you up
you freak
we moved on to talk about parents and how we don't want to write laws that allow the State to abuse parent's rights to raise their kids
was that the conversation, or just you though?
part of why cp was illegalized the way it was was to catch predators who couldn't be had on actual abuse charges
well, it's how you got to this shitty point with SJWs and trannys in the schools
States rights are a joke.
givng the state too much power
A unified, centralized government is the best solution.
but many legislatures are looking into backpedalling it because of how the internet has impacted it
always worse than parents having that power
it used to be that having CP nearly always meant buying from or knowing or participating in the crimes inherent in the creation of it
man oh man
we've got a legal expert on CP