Message from @NinjaQuick

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2019-08-09 23:56:22 UTC  

has an xbox in his cell

2019-08-09 23:56:48 UTC  

Justice is not social engineering

2019-08-09 23:56:51 UTC  

@Muten Well aware, but it isn't necessarily about informing the zealot, but the audience who the zealot may be talking to.

2019-08-09 23:57:03 UTC  

Justice is a moral category

2019-08-09 23:57:07 UTC  

Eh

2019-08-09 23:57:53 UTC  

If you complain at justice being bad for social engineering you're either missing the point or being a bad faith actor

2019-08-09 23:58:29 UTC  

Justice is the consequence of believing in free will as a moral category

2019-08-09 23:58:41 UTC  

he literally brought up that "everyone" agrees with him as a legitimate point

2019-08-09 23:58:50 UTC  

It's not conceptualized as a SOLUTION to anything

2019-08-09 23:59:04 UTC  

as well as "Every expert" agrees with him too

2019-08-09 23:59:11 UTC  

@Tonight at 11 - DOOM Bad faith actors. They're well aware that laws and punishments do not prevent crime. For example, take old laws involving inter-racial cohabitation. No one cared about the law or the punishment.

2019-08-09 23:59:14 UTC  

so appeal to popularity and appeal to authority

2019-08-09 23:59:57 UTC  

This is somewhat typical left wing rhetoric on the issue. Because the left does not believe in objective morality and thus does not believe in justice at all

2019-08-10 00:00:11 UTC  

They do not understand or care for the notion

2019-08-10 00:00:35 UTC  

I don't believe in objective morality but punitive justice is the only real justice

2019-08-10 00:00:58 UTC  

Ye, but you're a degenerate westerner

2019-08-10 00:01:09 UTC  

STFU eurofag

2019-08-10 00:01:21 UTC  

@Tonight at 11 - DOOM Or they disingenuously interpret the issue in a certain way. This is a perfect example. Based on Ninja's logic, one person being punished somehow has some kind of mystical influence on another person's intention to commit crime.

2019-08-10 00:01:21 UTC  

Your lack of conviction will delete your civilization

2019-08-10 00:01:30 UTC  

ninjaquick is also a supporter of pedos

2019-08-10 00:01:43 UTC  

Ninja

2019-08-10 00:01:47 UTC  

Because he's one of them (and that's where this whole issue arose from)

2019-08-10 00:01:52 UTC  

This is not about the EFFECTS of the sentence

2019-08-10 00:01:59 UTC  

do you understand?

2019-08-10 00:02:01 UTC  

or not?

2019-08-10 00:02:16 UTC  

he's just going to post bias links and not engage

2019-08-10 00:02:38 UTC  

because the amount of sources is more important than the content of them

2019-08-10 00:03:07 UTC  

@Muten Which only further strengthens our point that they aren't able to provide any actual evidence. Just links to opinion pieces or strawman articles.

2019-08-10 00:03:34 UTC  

This is an issue of fundamental moral conviction

2019-08-10 00:03:38 UTC  

it feels bad to be correct wtf

2019-08-10 00:03:44 UTC  

We will not agree on this

2019-08-10 00:04:13 UTC  

unless we agree on extremely basic things we don;t agree on

2019-08-10 00:04:25 UTC  

I have conviction to what I believe to be right, I just have no conviction to things that are false, and if what I believe is proven false

2019-08-10 00:04:32 UTC  

well then I lose conviction

2019-08-10 00:04:53 UTC  

@Tonight at 11 - DOOM Not agreeing is fine. Them agreeing isn't really required.

2019-08-10 00:05:01 UTC  

@Raintola Isn't this just being pedantic by splitting hairs? You can say that guns don't kill people, because it's the bullet that causes injury, but you can't expect people to thin kyou're arguing in good faith when the fear of prison keeps people from committing crimes and it is only a criminal mindset that ignores that.

2019-08-10 00:05:12 UTC  

It's preferable

2019-08-10 00:06:21 UTC  

Salutations gentlemen