Not more prisoners

Just prisoners that commit crimes

https://www.nytimes.com/1987/10/03/opinion/longer-sentences-do-not-deter-crime.html

them in prison

https://www.reframingjustice.com/2019/02/15/harsh-justice/

Lots of links, zero evidence. What you seem to not understand is that the point of punishments has nothing at all to do with prevention. Literally no laws or punishments prevent crime, so you're operating under nothing but a giant strawman.

of course letting out a cannibal who ate a man face free

is good rehab

@Raintola Literally my fucking point

>cannada

Shit libs don't care

they have their ideas and you have to deal with it

what's funny is that that norway shooter

The point of JUSTICE is not to reduce crime

^

has an xbox in his cell

Justice is not social engineering

@Muten Well aware, but it isn't necessarily about informing the zealot, but the audience who the zealot may be talking to.

Justice is a moral category

Eh

https://www.nij.gov/journals/272/Pages/collateral-consequences.aspx

If you complain at justice being bad for social engineering you're either missing the point or being a bad faith actor

Justice is the consequence of believing in free will as a moral category

he literally brought up that "everyone" agrees with him as a legitimate point

It's not conceptualized as a SOLUTION to anything

as well as "Every expert" agrees with him too

@Tonight at 11 - DOOM Bad faith actors. They're well aware that laws and punishments do not prevent crime. For example, take old laws involving inter-racial cohabitation. No one cared about the law or the punishment.

so appeal to popularity and appeal to authority

This is somewhat typical left wing rhetoric on the issue. Because the left does not believe in objective morality and thus does not believe in justice at all

They do not understand or care for the notion

I don't believe in objective morality but punitive justice is the only real justice

Ye, but you're a degenerate westerner

STFU eurofag

@Tonight at 11 - DOOM Or they disingenuously interpret the issue in a certain way. This is a perfect example. Based on Ninja's logic, one person being punished somehow has some kind of mystical influence on another person's intention to commit crime.

Your lack of conviction will delete your civilization

https://theweek.com/articles/460061/rethinking-mandatory-sentencing

ninjaquick is also a supporter of pedos

Ninja

Because he's one of them (and that's where this whole issue arose from)

This is not about the EFFECTS of the sentence

do you understand?