Capitalism/socialism is based on property,production, and labor

capitalism and socialism are based on reality and the human experience

can you GET any more vague?

what does that even mean for supply and demand to be the only factors determining value

everything is a function of property and production when it comes to ECONOMY

that is the primary focus

but that is not the impetus of socialism

Socialism is when workers own the means of production by state mandate, and labor is the value of pricing

Capitalism where private owners own the means of production and price is determined by commoditization of labor and property

the impetus is placing social needs about economic needs

socialism DISPLACES capitalism because that is the MEANS upon which socialism acts

Displaces how?

Woah boy

instead of supply/demand dictating value and thus allocation of resources, what is deemed ' socially important' dictates resources

Is welfare socialist?

No

It's anti Socialist in fact.

it is a form of limited socialism, yes

Ok liberal

liberal what?

People on welfare get shot under socialism

It's helping prop-up the capitalist system

It's not helping to replace it

Cause they are stealing

It's keeping people dependent on capitalism.

Welfare kweens on petty burgoise

that is the reality but not the theory

In theory socialism doesnt allow welfare

You get gulag or shot

burgoise has nothing to do with poverty

socialism could or could not allow welfare

Burgoise is "private owner exploiting labor"

In this sense

you are confusing an 18th century idea vs a 21st century idea

but i mean this is part of the problem with the term it's vague and can mean a million different things

.... im not

Social democrats and democratic socialists is basically nazis vs comintern

Burgoise : a derogatory term for anyone that owned property

and thus seen to be 'exploiting' the worker

Yes

NOT the same