Message from @Weez
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Lol
What is free market
a free market is a market in which supply and demand are the only factors in determing value
Capitalism/socialism is based on property,production, and labor
capitalism and socialism are based on reality and the human experience
can you GET any more vague?
what does that even mean for supply and demand to be the only factors determining value
everything is a function of property and production when it comes to ECONOMY
that is the primary focus
but that is not the impetus of socialism
Socialism is when workers own the means of production by state mandate, and labor is the value of pricing
Capitalism where private owners own the means of production and price is determined by commoditization of labor and property
the impetus is placing social needs about economic needs
socialism DISPLACES capitalism because that is the MEANS upon which socialism acts
Displaces how?
Woah boy
instead of supply/demand dictating value and thus allocation of resources, what is deemed ' socially important' dictates resources
Is welfare socialist?
No
it is a form of limited socialism, yes
Ok liberal
liberal what?
People on welfare get shot under socialism
It's helping prop-up the capitalist system
It's not helping to replace it
Cause they are stealing
It's keeping people dependent on capitalism.
Welfare kweens on petty burgoise
that is the reality but not the theory
In theory socialism doesnt allow welfare
You get gulag or shot
burgoise has nothing to do with poverty
socialism could or could not allow welfare
Burgoise is "private owner exploiting labor"
In this sense
you are confusing an 18th century idea vs a 21st century idea
but i mean this is part of the problem with the term it's vague and can mean a million different things
.... im not
Social democrats and democratic socialists is basically nazis vs comintern