Wat

conservatives in Murica are big Liberals 1st and foremost, so they are not about conserving much

secondly

Individual Liberty. The traditions of the Nation.

I do mean ultra long term

like

Mass immigration conservative?

The rest maybe but mass immigration?

if society collapses because Dems fuck up so much

@Louis I’m saying they failed

And yes there is conservatives for it

then Christian conservatives will prolly inherit the mess

@Snake well no shit

Liberalism IS the tradition we are trying to Conserve.

and thus "win"

@Louis Why does our nations being flooded with immigrants using a justification of these regions being destabilized and also causing terrorism in our own nations? Hmm. I wonder why that would matter.
Iran and Syria have oil. They would be happy to sell to us. It is Zionists who are preventing this and causing all of the trouble. If your care is only for oil, why would you not choose oil with no terrorism and no immigration over oil with terrorism and immigration?

Like deadass

but that's a gay ass scenario

on top of being long term

There are conservatives pro mass migration

Classical Liberalism

There is 2 kinds of general modus operandi for the elite. Action and preservation. Both are important, but only action brings change. Preservation just keeps away negative change from corrupting you.

There are also Nationalist Conservatives.

@Snake like who

Do you mean Republicans?

@Ϻ14ᛟ but this is currently not a big problem for the US. Terrorists killings are few compared to say, cancer deaths.

Conservatives (actual ones) have been in total defense mode prolly since the late 60s (in Murica)

at least from what I can tell

I don live there

And here I am being a constitutionalist patriot.

Republicans are still better organized and more unified than Dems. They also typically hold true to their core fundamentals as a Party and as an Individual.

and?

They also have indeed mostly been on the defensive up until now.

they are losing on all fronts

Trump is not a conservative

Not really

@Sham00e

@Louis You're clearly a Zionist.

oof

@Ϻ14ᛟ or clearly I don't give a shit about the jews

@Jack of Trades Dan Crenshaw has said his for people from India coming over for work. That’s the thing, they’re hyper capitalist were they want cheap labor and they want it to be legal