*dabs*

Maybe, maybe not.

fucking enlightenment trash

I hope the best for Israel but I don’t want their beliefs and influence here

Idk much about that.

I can argue geopolitics pretty well

What counts as " a sense of white victimization"?

better question

what doesn't

Being entitled or not being put down

Being victimized

It is a bit of a buzzword

Now days

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Their beliefs (culturally) are our beliefs. They are western.

Their geopolitics (trying to keep the Middle East contained and manageable) are our geopolitics. They aren’t radical Islamic extremists.

@Muten I'd assume a feeling that Whites are being attacked or replaced.

But that question personally to me was the least important indicator of all 3, the other 2 are a better predictor.

ding ding ding

@Snake TBF what **isn't** a buzzword these days?

@SPOOKY Phil, Ruler of Heck true

There obviously is a significant portion of moralfaging and general, non-realist geopolitcs behind the US' support for Israel. At least in terms of the amount of said support. It's not entirely worthless at all. But it's not THAT crucial either. Especially with the House of Saud being a US asset. Turkey is kinda iffy nao, but whatever. Not the end of the world and Israel s'not gonna stahp a Turkey sized player anyway.

I think that even without US boots on the ground Israel did pretty well on its own.

"a strong sense of white identity" Take this from the perspective of a leftist.

With the sheer amount of "all whites bad" shit out on the internet, I can wholeheartedly agree that whites are victimized

Leftists don't have a strong sense of White identity

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zf2VYAtqRe0

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@Sham00e Israel would be fine without American backing, they have nuclear weapons

@Muten You're more likely to find a strong sense of LGBT identity from a leftist

They could crater Iran

Most Euros don;t have a strong sense of white identity. It's a nu world thing mostly, to some degree old colonial powers too, but less so.

@Ϻ14ᛟ By that do you mean "Anything that isn't a leftist meets this criteria"?

@Snake they've had nuke-making capabilities since the 1960s lmfao
(the CIA even admits as much in a report)

Because that's what it sounds like to me

@Tonight at 11 - DOOM I disagree. You can support Israel entirely pragmatically: Israel has nukes.
We want nuclear powers (who are right next to nutcase regimes) to be our allies.

@SPOOKY Phil, Ruler of Heck yeah deadass

I think whites in the west have almost no concept of "white identity"

So did South Africa until....

whites are the true anti-racists

I have more of a Mormon Identity than a White one. I don't even believe there is such a thing. I have an American Identity, or stretching a bit, I have a Dutch, or German identity.

@Muten Now I don't even know what you're saying, can you rephrase?

@Scale_e Why do you care if they fight?