Or they'll be allowed to opt out

That sentiment was not shared by 16 of the EU's 27 nations - including Greece, France, the Czech Republic, Spain, Italy and Poland - which tried to block the changes at a meeting of the Agricultural Management Committee.

😄

they didn't even try to fight it in 16 counties

what the hell

"You can take our oddly shaped bananas from our cold, dead hands!"
- Greece, probably.

hahahaha

There's gonna be lots of opt outs then

Probably

at least if current trends remian

The Greeks do like bananas 😄

the EU is fucking weird...can they go fuck themselves?

I learned that from history class 😄

and this is assuming the big players even DO come to an agreement

@saru_richard - Given the EU's stance on gay marriage and sex toys, I'm pretty sure they already do. Regularly.

They will

which is very difficult

It might be watered down initially

why do you think they will?

@Arthur Grayborn maybe they can invite the UN so both organizations can die quicker

because they have so far?

Because they have on everything else

ye

dat is a shit argument

There is already an EU foreign minister and agreements in place for foreign policy

There is already agreement on policing

I know

but we are not talking about that

you just bring it up because of your tendency to do so I pointed out earlier

@Tonight at 11 - DOOM - The problem is creeping federalism.

It's a problem in the EU, just like it is and has been a problem in the United States for the past 200 years. Government authority tends to always increase, never decrease, moving steadily towards despotism over time.

The only time you see a reversal, is during an actual revolution.

cause you want to say your shtick

kinda

not talk about the exact subject

all large organizations do that....look at the catholic church

then the self destruct in some way

@Arthur Grayborn Actual federalization would require war.

As it did with the US

OK Doom, there won't be single unified EU army under sole EU control able to depose member states, at least not any time soon

be it external or internal

EU/UN: we don't like Genocide, we want to be peacekeepers
also UN/EU: ignores the UAE ~~ ethnic cleansing ~~ "aggressive negotiations" with Yemen, and half the conflicts in Africa