Message from @tereško
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no arguments back, just hate
A lot of it seems to me to be how the topic is being presented and what the listener is cued in on. If it's logic, but the listener is prepared for emotive communication shatters.
It's unhinged tribalism, and they're not just destroying themselves.
They're bringing down everyone else with them.
Or if it's emotive and the listener is primed for logic.. SSDD.
I started noticing that, yes, IQ has a noticiable difference in different countries
just noticing that made me think there was something wrong with what we are allowed to say
It's also probably because voters have never been that logical, at least for the vast majority of them. They're taught from a young age to be "in tune with their emotions," and that emotions are just as important, if not more so, than logic.
So logic ends up being subverted to emotion, and it corrupts their thinking.
I tried for *years* with the idea that anyone could learn anything
I had no idea how deep those ideas get
yes, I think you have something there
Eh, IQ isn't the right denominator, but if I grep the correct concept it's the same of what I speak. (IQ is more an indicator of the ability to manipulate and process data, rather than sensible interpretations.)
I actually think that IQ differences are a result of epigenetic factors (as in - environment) and education level (since it heavily depends on abstraction) ... the "race" as a factor is just a red herring
emotion is quite strong
@shrikeclaw - Interesting point about the realities surrounding IQ, is what would happen if a corporation took advantage of that knowledge. You could create an elite school for high IQ children, and basically train them to be your loyal goons. You'll end up with an army of geniuses that will do whatever the fuck you say, and at that point you just take over.
Erm..
evolution doesn't stop at the neck
they are using that
That's known as "higher education." @Arthur Grayborn
essentially
Universities
look at how the universities are talking about their students
Who possess documentation that claims superiority.
they just use them
not all fields are like other fields
@Laucivol - I'm talking about starting early, first grade.
Design your entire curriculum around maximizing the intellectual growth of high IQ children, who due to their situation will no longer be held back by the presence of less capable classmates. You can now move several times faster through the curriculum, and they'll be college ready by the time they hit sixth grade.
By the time they hit 12th grade, you'll have the equivalent of PhD educations in an army of kids you've been molding for the past 12 years, to think and say what the corporation wants them to.
some have been more rigorous and kept their heads down during this nazi fantasy time
At that point, you just take over the fucking country one economic sector at a time.
Replace corporation with government and we already have that system in place.
Not really.
Education for gifted children is hobbled by the "universalist" system we have now.
Some kids are ready to move through the curriculum 2-3 times faster, but slower kids set the pace for the entire class.
Eh, the truly gifted have outs.
The truly gifted do well for themselves, but they would do significantly better and achieve a hell of a lot more in a system that actually maximizes their potential.
@Arthur Grayborn wrong. It's not the "universalist system" that is the problem. The actual issue is education that is based on testing-scores and memorization.
Which is why I turned my back on the system when I was no longer compelled to engage it.
A foolish choice, but these things happen.
@tereško - Some kids learn faster. A lot faster.
When you don't split classes up based on how quickly they master the curriculum, some of them end up being hobbled in their growth. Those gifted kids still end up on top, but their actual abilities are not even close to what they would have been if their education had been better managed.
It's like putting Usain Bolt in a running class where he has to wait until everyone else finished their lap, before he can run his next one. Sure, he becomes the fastest runner IN THAT SCHOOL, but you've basically robbed him of his Olympic chops.
Just because people end up on top anyways, that doesn't mean you haven't kneecapped their intellectual growth and retarded their development as a human being.
@Arthur Grayborn those monolithic classrooms are actually result of scoring-based education