Message from @Laucivol
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how hard is that
Worst part is, you can't even discriminate on national origin, even for non-citizens.
So while China is engaged in rampant IP theft, you are legally prohibited from restricting Chinese nationals from jobs in tech. You can't even subject them to heightened background checks (because the Chinese government is constantly stealing IP), because that would be "national origin discrimination."
pretty fucked up, huh?
If you hired a Canadian dude with a clean background check and not much else, but want to look into the family connections of a Chinese guy just to make sure he's not a pawn for the Chinese intelligence services, you just broke the law.
how did things get this fucked up?
Politics.
"Muh racism."
That's how. People scream oppression, prejudice, and bigotry, and then all critical dissent stops. Right then and there.
I mean, jesus we used to care about that stuff
Well, more like power plays.
Anyone who continues to oppose them ends up being branded a literal fucking Nazi, and cast out of polite society.
no shit
deviate a little bit from the narrative and *bam*
If you want to look into the family connections of Chinese workers during an employment screening, to make sure they're not in any way connected to Chinese intelligence, you basically have to do that shit for ALL workers.
It also means you have to bar employment to anyone with links to British or German intelligence, even though England and Germany are not engaged in rampant IP theft and we're fucking military allies to those countries.
I've seen someone get *furious* with me when I expressed confusion over her accusation that Bernie Sanders *wasn't* a misogynst
same thing for racism topics
it's like a switch
The only exception is military contracting, but then you basically have to accept whatever the fucking feds have to say about it. If some Chinese dude looks super fishy, but the Feds say he's OK, you have to let him look at the blueprints for a $1.5 trillion dollar warplane, and don't you fucking dare treat him differently than American workers.
I can quote back arguments from 20 years ago that were fine for the old left, but now it's a trigger
no arguments back, just hate
A lot of it seems to me to be how the topic is being presented and what the listener is cued in on. If it's logic, but the listener is prepared for emotive communication shatters.
It's unhinged tribalism, and they're not just destroying themselves.
They're bringing down everyone else with them.
Or if it's emotive and the listener is primed for logic.. SSDD.
I started noticing that, yes, IQ has a noticiable difference in different countries
just noticing that made me think there was something wrong with what we are allowed to say
It's also probably because voters have never been that logical, at least for the vast majority of them. They're taught from a young age to be "in tune with their emotions," and that emotions are just as important, if not more so, than logic.
So logic ends up being subverted to emotion, and it corrupts their thinking.
I tried for *years* with the idea that anyone could learn anything
I had no idea how deep those ideas get
yes, I think you have something there
Eh, IQ isn't the right denominator, but if I grep the correct concept it's the same of what I speak. (IQ is more an indicator of the ability to manipulate and process data, rather than sensible interpretations.)
I actually think that IQ differences are a result of epigenetic factors (as in - environment) and education level (since it heavily depends on abstraction) ... the "race" as a factor is just a red herring
emotion is quite strong
@shrikeclaw - Interesting point about the realities surrounding IQ, is what would happen if a corporation took advantage of that knowledge. You could create an elite school for high IQ children, and basically train them to be your loyal goons. You'll end up with an army of geniuses that will do whatever the fuck you say, and at that point you just take over.
Erm..
evolution doesn't stop at the neck
they are using that
That's known as "higher education." @Arthur Grayborn
essentially
Universities
@shrikeclaw and genetics do not stop after birth
look at how the universities are talking about their students