Message from @shrikeclaw

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2019-08-13 08:41:48 UTC  

and based on that, having those huge classrooms is the most cost-effective way to increase scores for most people

2019-08-13 08:42:35 UTC  

and it has nothing to do with kids being white or black - the IQ is not based on race but on the environment at that age

2019-08-13 08:42:41 UTC  

Of course, when all you're looking at is the percentage of students meeting "minimum competence," you're missing the fact that a lot of the kids can go far, FAR beyond that. It's not unreasonable to expect that at least 10% of American students could be done with Calculus and Differential Equations by the time they finish high school.

10% of those could likely be done with an Associate's Degree, if not a Bachelor's.

2019-08-13 08:42:49 UTC  

dude, I've been all over the place, intelligence does matter enormously

2019-08-13 08:43:31 UTC  

you get these weird behaviors from doing things that they are not familiar with....cargo cult actions

2019-08-13 08:43:40 UTC  

No teresko iq is inherent

2019-08-13 08:43:42 UTC  

we had guards at the front gate of a facility

2019-08-13 08:43:54 UTC  

@tereško - Fact is, when you segregate students by academic ability, the strong begin progressing at a faster pace and the percentage of students meeting some "minimum competence" threshhold drops because a lot of the weaker students were being buoyed by tutoring from the more gifted.

2019-08-13 08:43:55 UTC  

@shrikeclaw well, IQ actually measures how good are you at abstract problem solving (basically, how good you are at math, geometry or programming ... shit like that),

2019-08-13 08:44:18 UTC  

they were supposed to be guarding the operation as there were major security risks

2019-08-13 08:44:37 UTC  

In our pursuit of egalitarianism, we kneecap the cognitive growth of the gifted, all in pursuit of having a larger percentage that meets some "minimum competence" threshhold.

2019-08-13 08:44:39 UTC  

we had a simple system for scanning things in with a hand held scanner

2019-08-13 08:45:02 UTC  

they broke for about a week, but the guards kept doing the same motion without the scanner

2019-08-13 08:45:29 UTC  

^ cargo cult

2019-08-13 08:45:45 UTC  

Nah. Manipulation.

2019-08-13 08:45:48 UTC  

cover the sticker on the truck with one hand and raise the other up like holding a scanner gun

2019-08-13 08:45:55 UTC  

no point to it

2019-08-13 08:46:00 UTC  

If the kids don't know the scanners are broken, then they're not as likely to bring in guns or knives.

2019-08-13 08:46:15 UTC  

If you stop using the scanners, kids will recognize that something's changed.

2019-08-13 08:46:29 UTC  

dude, the good guys we had were gurkas

2019-08-13 08:46:37 UTC  

the locals were terrible

2019-08-13 08:47:12 UTC  

we had fucking Al-Queida agents inside the damn operation

2019-08-13 08:47:39 UTC  

the locals were useless in that regard

2019-08-13 08:47:43 UTC  

Wait, were they going through the motions WITHOUT a scanner? Even a broken one?

2019-08-13 08:47:50 UTC  

yes

2019-08-13 08:47:53 UTC  

so bizarre

2019-08-13 08:47:56 UTC  

empty hands

2019-08-13 08:48:12 UTC  

I could understand using a fucking broken one, just to maintain appearances, but if there's no scanner then it's obvious as shit that you aren't scanning people.

2019-08-13 08:48:30 UTC  

that's what I was trying to convey

2019-08-13 08:48:35 UTC  

sorry if I was unclear

2019-08-13 08:48:58 UTC  

If I was working at an inner city school, and the metal detectors were broke, I'd say wand the kids anyways for the few days it takes to get working metal detectors in, just so that not as many of them will know how vulnerable they are.

2019-08-13 08:49:27 UTC  

With any luck, by the time someone realizes they can smuggle in a knife you've fixed the problem.

2019-08-13 08:49:54 UTC  

almost all of the people on my work "level" in africa have major problems learning new software even if straight out of college

2019-08-13 08:50:18 UTC  

some are ok, but most are crap

2019-08-13 08:50:45 UTC  

I had the great honor of tutoring a graduate student from Uganda.

She was taking college algebra, and couldn't do basic arithmetic. Even basic addition, with two digit numbers, was too much for her.

2019-08-13 08:51:14 UTC  

The level she was at, she shouldn't have been able to pass third grade, let alone high school, and especially not college.

2019-08-13 08:51:40 UTC  

there is an enormous discrepancy

2019-08-13 08:51:41 UTC  

that says more about the education system in Uganda than anything else

2019-08-13 08:52:29 UTC  

no, that's an international graduate student from Uganda, accepted to the first world

2019-08-13 08:52:47 UTC  

@tereško - I think we should give people a chance to prove themselves, and then judge accordingly. We should be splitting kids up by ability starting around second or third grade, and there should be more splits as you progress in education, because a lot of kids are going to be at vastly different levels and it would be deeply unfair to them to have them all in the same class.

2019-08-13 08:52:56 UTC  

another level