Message from @tereško

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2019-08-13 08:46:00 UTC  

If the kids don't know the scanners are broken, then they're not as likely to bring in guns or knives.

2019-08-13 08:46:15 UTC  

If you stop using the scanners, kids will recognize that something's changed.

2019-08-13 08:46:29 UTC  

dude, the good guys we had were gurkas

2019-08-13 08:46:37 UTC  

the locals were terrible

2019-08-13 08:47:12 UTC  

we had fucking Al-Queida agents inside the damn operation

2019-08-13 08:47:39 UTC  

the locals were useless in that regard

2019-08-13 08:47:43 UTC  

Wait, were they going through the motions WITHOUT a scanner? Even a broken one?

2019-08-13 08:47:50 UTC  

yes

2019-08-13 08:47:53 UTC  

so bizarre

2019-08-13 08:47:56 UTC  

empty hands

2019-08-13 08:48:12 UTC  

I could understand using a fucking broken one, just to maintain appearances, but if there's no scanner then it's obvious as shit that you aren't scanning people.

2019-08-13 08:48:30 UTC  

that's what I was trying to convey

2019-08-13 08:48:35 UTC  

sorry if I was unclear

2019-08-13 08:48:58 UTC  

If I was working at an inner city school, and the metal detectors were broke, I'd say wand the kids anyways for the few days it takes to get working metal detectors in, just so that not as many of them will know how vulnerable they are.

2019-08-13 08:49:27 UTC  

With any luck, by the time someone realizes they can smuggle in a knife you've fixed the problem.

2019-08-13 08:49:54 UTC  

almost all of the people on my work "level" in africa have major problems learning new software even if straight out of college

2019-08-13 08:50:18 UTC  

some are ok, but most are crap

2019-08-13 08:50:45 UTC  

I had the great honor of tutoring a graduate student from Uganda.

She was taking college algebra, and couldn't do basic arithmetic. Even basic addition, with two digit numbers, was too much for her.

2019-08-13 08:51:14 UTC  

The level she was at, she shouldn't have been able to pass third grade, let alone high school, and especially not college.

2019-08-13 08:51:40 UTC  

there is an enormous discrepancy

2019-08-13 08:51:41 UTC  

that says more about the education system in Uganda than anything else

2019-08-13 08:52:29 UTC  

no, that's an international graduate student from Uganda, accepted to the first world

2019-08-13 08:52:47 UTC  

@tereško - I think we should give people a chance to prove themselves, and then judge accordingly. We should be splitting kids up by ability starting around second or third grade, and there should be more splits as you progress in education, because a lot of kids are going to be at vastly different levels and it would be deeply unfair to them to have them all in the same class.

2019-08-13 08:52:56 UTC  

another level

2019-08-13 08:53:07 UTC  

Yeah, international student. Graduate level. Accepted into the United States.

Couldn't do basic fucking addition.

2019-08-13 08:53:12 UTC  

might help

2019-08-13 08:53:35 UTC  

basic mineral ID is what I have trouble with

2019-08-13 08:53:46 UTC  

Quite frankly, anyone looking to immigrate into the United States should take a "skills test." If they cannot read, write, and do math at a fifth grade level, then they cannot come here. We should impose that test retroactively on any immigrants too, and deport anyone that can't pass.

2019-08-13 08:54:00 UTC  

@Arthur Grayborn ideally we should have classrooms of 6-12 kids. But to get that, we probably need huge advancements in AI, to get virtual teachers.

2019-08-13 08:54:02 UTC  

basic fucking mineral identification from first year college

2019-08-13 08:54:14 UTC  

they can't do the simplest stuff

2019-08-13 08:54:50 UTC  

@tereško - Small classrooms only make a difference for low performing students.

The research found that results were negligible for white students - they learned just as well in a large lecture hall as they did in a smaller hands-on class.

2019-08-13 08:55:10 UTC  

Where it made a difference was for black students, but it still came nowhere near closing the gap.

2019-08-13 08:55:32 UTC  

no, it makes huge difference for all students

2019-08-13 08:55:44 UTC  

I gotta crash

2019-08-13 08:55:47 UTC  

good talking

2019-08-13 08:55:50 UTC  

later all

2019-08-13 08:55:58 UTC  

it a way for more talented students to get even better results

2019-08-13 08:56:40 UTC  

@Arthur Grayborn it's not just the "slow" kids that get hold back by huge classrooms, it also affects the smart ones

2019-08-13 08:57:49 UTC  

and it all comes down to current systems being geared towards "teaching to pass a test"

2019-08-13 08:59:09 UTC  

I found the study, @tereško:

"This effect was concentrated in the first year that students participated in the program. In addition, the positive effects of class size were largest for black students, economically disadvantaged students, and boys."
https://www.brookings.edu/research/class-size-what-research-says-and-what-it-means-for-state-policy/