Message from @TEABAG!!!

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2019-08-02 08:02:16 UTC  

The state can wash itself clean from a debt to its own citizens. No company can do that.

2019-08-02 08:03:35 UTC  

Lastly, a company will never create a de facto state, because a state requires laws. Companies do not make laws.

2019-08-02 08:03:59 UTC  

If a company makes laws for a region, it becomes a state, it is no longer a company.

2019-08-02 08:04:16 UTC  

In fact it would be a dictatorship, the worst kind of state.

2019-08-02 08:05:21 UTC  

Words matter, they shape our ideas, so it's crucial we don't mix them up.

2019-08-02 08:28:44 UTC  

Yes they do make laws and this is what people are trying to tell you. That companies have become so big that they are actually have legal teams that create their own legislation. Like Google has with its own consumers. However, google closed it's google plus arena this year because it forecast losses. It is not a state as such, one should not give these companies that satisfaction of having power over the people.

2019-08-02 08:45:54 UTC  

In this debate, I am going to refer to the banking crisis which was emerging in 2007. Whereby the US federal bank could have done everything in its power to enforce legislation to protect homeowners from the plight of the recession which was about to hit. They are the ones who are responsible for when companies loose the battle. The problem is out of the people's hands once the government acts, and on both sides of the pond they reacted poorly.
https://www.thebalance.com/2007-financial-crisis-overview-3306138

2019-08-02 10:21:48 UTC  

@TEABAG!!! Citation needed for Google creating legislation

2019-08-02 10:23:20 UTC  

It's a pdf which everyone was informed about and has been circulating for a while

2019-08-02 10:23:47 UTC  

I'm not going to read the whole thing, can you point me to the part where Google is creating legislation please?

2019-08-02 10:24:46 UTC  

This is about them also collecting data everytime you use their services, so it means they are not liable and they are saying they are gathering information on you.

2019-08-02 10:26:21 UTC  

And they are saying that they asked for pre consent already for private information be given. However, by the time you do the new registration process, they already have your consent. As you automatically are apart of their world.

2019-08-02 10:26:50 UTC  

I'm not seeing where Google is creating legislation, please point me to it

2019-08-02 10:26:50 UTC  

Domain.... world --- what ever they have legislated that in their conditions.

2019-08-02 10:27:13 UTC  

Do you know the difference between business policy and government legislation?

2019-08-02 10:27:49 UTC  

I suggest you read things and stop asking questions.

2019-08-02 10:28:00 UTC  

I suggest you stop skirting the issue and answer my question

2019-08-02 10:28:14 UTC  

We will share personal information outside of Google if we have a good-faith belief that access, use,
preservation, or disclosure of the information is reasonably necessary to:
Meet any applicable law, regulation, legal process, or enforceable governmental request. We share
information about the number and type of requests we receive from governments in our
Transparency Report.

2019-08-02 10:28:44 UTC  

Enforce applicable Terms of Service, including investigation of potential violations.
Detect, prevent, or otherwise address fraud, security, or technical issues.
Protect against harm to the rights, property or safety of Google, our users, or the public as required
or permitted by law.

2019-08-02 10:28:50 UTC  

Ah, so Google has not made any legislation, they're following existing law

2019-08-02 10:29:06 UTC  

We may share non-personally identiable information publicly and with our partners — like publishers,
advertisers, developers, or rights holders. For example, we share information publicly to show trends
about the general use of our services. We also allow specic partners to collect information from your
browser or device for advertising and measurement purposes using their own cookies or similar
technologie

2019-08-02 10:29:16 UTC  

You can spam me all you want, it doesn't work on me.

2019-08-02 10:29:28 UTC  

If Google is involved in a merger, acquisition, or sale of assets, we’ll continue to ensure the condentiality
of your personal information and give affected users notice before personal information is transferred or
becomes subject to a different privacy policy.

2019-08-02 10:30:14 UTC  

None of the things Google is doing is the creation of legislation

2019-08-02 10:30:31 UTC  

You're just throwing word salads at me, and none of this answers my question

2019-08-02 10:31:23 UTC  

As in this is not spam, you need to read and, define it for yourselves that their community guidelines is their own legislation. Every company has legislation. Banks have their own and so do healthcare places, and also schools. But you are not getting community guidelines is their pursuit ... always has been and this is nothing to do with your freespeech.

2019-08-02 10:31:42 UTC  

Now are you getting it?

2019-08-02 10:31:43 UTC  

I have read your spam above, there's nothing in there showing that Google is creating legislation

2019-08-02 10:33:00 UTC  

It is their community guidelines which is legislation, hence why @Lupinate said that they are trying to show they are not liable. However, if you the individual does persue them; God help you.

2019-08-02 10:33:10 UTC  

Community guidelines are not legislation

2019-08-02 10:33:38 UTC  

I ask again: do you know the difference between business policy and government legislation?

2019-08-02 10:34:00 UTC  

'''legislation noun
leg·​is·​la·​tion | \ ˌle-jə-ˈslā-shən \
Definition of legislation
1 : the action of legislating
specifically : the exercise of the power and function of making rules (such as laws) that have the force of authority by virtue of their promulgation by an official organ of a state or other organization
the major function of Congress is legislation
— W. S. Sayre
2 : the enactments of a legislator or a legislative body
legislation to help distressed homeowners
3 : a matter of business for or under consideration by a legislative body
She proposed new legislation to protect the environment.'''

2019-08-02 10:34:39 UTC  

Good, now tell me how precisely this applies to Google

2019-08-02 10:34:59 UTC  

Which part of this definition precisely is the one that applies to them

2019-08-02 10:35:48 UTC  

I just told you and you are not getting it that it is that they are enforcing their authority over the situation. If you break their guidelines then you get kicked off. It has happened to too many people.

2019-08-02 10:36:01 UTC  

Answer my question directly

2019-08-02 10:36:30 UTC  

You can get kicked out of many places, that doesn't mean it's a part of a legislation

2019-08-02 10:36:46 UTC  

You can kick people out of your home, is that part of the law?

2019-08-02 10:36:58 UTC  

I just did but you are obviously needing to understand the difference between the terminology used to create laws within their organisation.