Message from @ryuplaneswalker
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more work.
I might be wrong, but we only have these concerns because long established rule of law and morality have been let slip. And we refuse to kick offenders into the next realm.
@system11 most humans living today belive in objective morals (or at least purport to based on religion polling)
Just because people subjectively believe in different moralities does not proclude the possibility of a single metaphysically correct morality
let me know when you identify the objectively correct set of divine moralities. im sure the explanation will be breathtaking
Karma would be a bitch
@system11 you are clearly retarded
that must be it
@system11 - I imagine it would involve God showing up and spelling them out, which would technically be breathtaking.
i'd pay a fiver to see that
You here that god! someone said they would pay a fiver for you to show up and smite some fuckers
hear*
Poor brainlet cant understand the difference between advocacy of a position and neutrally explaining it
Even then there'd be mass denial, refusal in the face of the judge
not smite, just give us a list of morals, they could be carved into stone tablets or something. i want to see them do it though, no parlour tricks like having a prophet do it for them
well presumably God would have to prove he is the big cheese
and that would involve some smote
Crap, I was about to make a religion out of that..
Kek
Assuming our laws are just, defined to the minimum effect, and enforced with swift and reliable justice, we could forget having to rely on God making an appearance, he shouldn't have to roll up
that would just be us agreeing on a set of morals.
Haven't we already spent the last thousand years doing that?
Government needs to be accountable for upholding what we already deem to be objective morality.
but it isn't objective it is subjective.
well we tried, but people keep moving the goalposts forwards and backwards
the laws we set in place are just the shit we can agree on.
I use objective tongue in cheek, we can get just close enough to tolerate the definition.
i wasn't entirely joking when i said objective morality is a social construct, if we're happy to use the term despite the obvious issues
Semantics are an idle sport
Of couse you think the idea of objective morals is a social construct if you believe that morality is fundimentally subjective what else could it be
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God isn't going to be here for a while..
"I find this apolocaplyse to be fairly accommodating"
it's ok, i watched a film this evening that showed god is actually a vengeful petulant brat who just fucks with moses for the lulz
He's actually controlling the NPCs seeing if we'll rise to the challenge.
"exodus: gods and kings" - it wasnt an entirely bad film but it makes god look like a complete asshole
Well, knowing the entire timeline would drive anyone to boredom.
It has to be engaging for us, otherwise we won't buy into the whole life shnazz.
god (depicted as a petulant child) informs moses that 400 years of oppression is enough. you'd have thought 40 would be enough, or even 4. but no - 400 is where he really gets fed up enough to do something about it
You have to want your freedom enough to fight for it, only then will you value it.