Message from @ryuplaneswalker

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2019-07-21 23:52:22 UTC  

more work.

2019-07-21 23:53:25 UTC  

I might be wrong, but we only have these concerns because long established rule of law and morality have been let slip. And we refuse to kick offenders into the next realm.

2019-07-21 23:53:46 UTC  

@system11 most humans living today belive in objective morals (or at least purport to based on religion polling)

2019-07-21 23:55:11 UTC  

Just because people subjectively believe in different moralities does not proclude the possibility of a single metaphysically correct morality

2019-07-21 23:56:41 UTC  

let me know when you identify the objectively correct set of divine moralities. im sure the explanation will be breathtaking

2019-07-21 23:57:04 UTC  

Karma would be a bitch

2019-07-21 23:57:31 UTC  

@system11 you are clearly retarded

2019-07-21 23:57:48 UTC  

that must be it

2019-07-21 23:58:00 UTC  

@system11 - I imagine it would involve God showing up and spelling them out, which would technically be breathtaking.

2019-07-21 23:58:13 UTC  

i'd pay a fiver to see that

2019-07-21 23:58:50 UTC  

You here that god! someone said they would pay a fiver for you to show up and smite some fuckers

2019-07-21 23:58:53 UTC  

hear*

2019-07-21 23:59:12 UTC  

Poor brainlet cant understand the difference between advocacy of a position and neutrally explaining it

2019-07-21 23:59:13 UTC  

Even then there'd be mass denial, refusal in the face of the judge

2019-07-21 23:59:43 UTC  

not smite, just give us a list of morals, they could be carved into stone tablets or something. i want to see them do it though, no parlour tricks like having a prophet do it for them

2019-07-22 00:00:02 UTC  

well presumably God would have to prove he is the big cheese

2019-07-22 00:00:07 UTC  

and that would involve some smote

2019-07-22 00:00:08 UTC  

Crap, I was about to make a religion out of that..

2019-07-22 00:00:24 UTC  

Kek

2019-07-22 00:03:31 UTC  

Assuming our laws are just, defined to the minimum effect, and enforced with swift and reliable justice, we could forget having to rely on God making an appearance, he shouldn't have to roll up

2019-07-22 00:10:20 UTC  

Yes but that wouldn't make objective morality

2019-07-22 00:10:27 UTC  

that would just be us agreeing on a set of morals.

2019-07-22 00:10:42 UTC  

Haven't we already spent the last thousand years doing that?

2019-07-22 00:11:23 UTC  

Government needs to be accountable for upholding what we already deem to be objective morality.

2019-07-22 00:11:45 UTC  

but it isn't objective it is subjective.

2019-07-22 00:11:53 UTC  

well we tried, but people keep moving the goalposts forwards and backwards

2019-07-22 00:11:55 UTC  

the laws we set in place are just the shit we can agree on.

2019-07-22 00:12:49 UTC  

I use objective tongue in cheek, we can get just close enough to tolerate the definition.

2019-07-22 00:14:24 UTC  

i wasn't entirely joking when i said objective morality is a social construct, if we're happy to use the term despite the obvious issues

2019-07-22 00:14:44 UTC  

Semantics are an idle sport

2019-07-22 00:15:57 UTC  

Of couse you think the idea of objective morals is a social construct if you believe that morality is fundimentally subjective what else could it be

2019-07-22 00:16:28 UTC  

..

2019-07-22 00:17:02 UTC  

God isn't going to be here for a while..

2019-07-22 00:17:58 UTC  

"I find this apolocaplyse to be fairly accommodating"

2019-07-22 00:20:15 UTC  

it's ok, i watched a film this evening that showed god is actually a vengeful petulant brat who just fucks with moses for the lulz

2019-07-22 00:21:03 UTC  

He's actually controlling the NPCs seeing if we'll rise to the challenge.

2019-07-22 00:21:46 UTC  

"exodus: gods and kings" - it wasnt an entirely bad film but it makes god look like a complete asshole

2019-07-22 00:22:25 UTC  

Well, knowing the entire timeline would drive anyone to boredom.

2019-07-22 00:23:14 UTC  

It has to be engaging for us, otherwise we won't buy into the whole life shnazz.

2019-07-22 00:23:14 UTC  

god (depicted as a petulant child) informs moses that 400 years of oppression is enough. you'd have thought 40 would be enough, or even 4. but no - 400 is where he really gets fed up enough to do something about it

2019-07-22 00:23:54 UTC  

You have to want your freedom enough to fight for it, only then will you value it.