Message from @Tonight at 11 - DOOM

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2019-07-24 16:33:24 UTC  

if your laws have no moral justification, they are wither good on accident, or evil

2019-07-24 16:34:17 UTC  

the way republics justify law

2019-07-24 16:34:22 UTC  

being non-evil

2019-07-24 16:34:30 UTC  

is by binding good to the will of the people

2019-07-24 16:34:46 UTC  

saying basically that the ppl is to be the arbiter of good and evil

2019-07-24 16:35:05 UTC  

which is dubious

2019-07-24 16:35:16 UTC  

This is exactly like a pointless discussion a few days ago because morals are subjective

2019-07-24 16:35:20 UTC  

(though practical)

2019-07-24 16:35:38 UTC  

if morality is indeed subjective

2019-07-24 16:35:42 UTC  

then all of this is meaningless

2019-07-24 16:35:47 UTC  

and all there is is Foucault

2019-07-24 16:35:55 UTC  

and power dynamics

2019-07-24 16:36:09 UTC  

which incidentally means that the far left is correct

2019-07-24 16:36:27 UTC  

them or the actual, unironic Evolafags

2019-07-24 16:36:33 UTC  

not sure which

2019-07-24 16:36:36 UTC  

but one of the 2

2019-07-24 16:37:06 UTC  

if morality is subjective

2019-07-24 16:37:17 UTC  

Perhaps it just means that morals within a society are a social construct based on a majority feeling within that society

2019-07-24 16:37:17 UTC  

it is either so depending on nature or nurture

2019-07-24 16:37:40 UTC  

if that is true, system, then the SJWs are 100% correct

2019-07-24 16:37:56 UTC  

and there is no reality

2019-07-24 16:38:02 UTC  

at least in any meaningful sense

2019-07-24 16:38:19 UTC  

Most people agree that beating dogs with sticks is wrong, there's one moral and thus law by extrapolation of how unacceptable it is to break the moral

2019-07-24 16:39:15 UTC  

none of this means that there isn't objectively moral standards, just that people have a hard time not falling in line

2019-07-24 16:39:49 UTC  

you're basically conflating what is socially acceptable with what should be

2019-07-24 16:39:57 UTC  

which is different concepts

2019-07-24 16:40:08 UTC  

It depends on the intent of the beating.

2019-07-24 16:40:13 UTC  

I just don't see how morals can come to exist without a function being group acceptance or consensus on what is right or wrong. In fact we know this to be true based on looking at how different moral codes exist in different countries

2019-07-24 16:40:42 UTC  

raed more books

2019-07-24 16:40:56 UTC  

Don't you dare say the bible

2019-07-24 16:40:58 UTC  

unironically this is my answer

2019-07-24 16:41:11 UTC  

You shouldn't start with the Bible tbh

2019-07-24 16:41:17 UTC  

very hard read

2019-07-24 16:41:28 UTC  

confusing

2019-07-24 16:41:47 UTC  

and clearly more about lateral thinking then about rational

2019-07-24 16:42:22 UTC  

Law does impart moral behavior because our system of law was affected by canon law of the Catholic church.

2019-07-24 16:42:36 UTC  

plus the Bible is actually kinda pointless if you dont do reading around it

2019-07-24 16:43:08 UTC  

unless ur some sort of genius

2019-07-24 16:43:28 UTC  

Protestants are dumb basically

2019-07-24 16:43:53 UTC  

That book is much better served with help from smart ppl suggesting interpretations

2019-07-24 16:44:03 UTC  

then on ur own, as a simple read