It's just whatever the fuck mussolini was trying to do

Facism in acient Rome? Pretty sure facism was a Mussolini construct

@Skogarbjorn I mentioned a few lines before that I do NOT mean the US "conservativism"

I've never seen anyone advocate for complete social control but little or no economic control. All examples of real life fascism I can think of have involved extensive government control of both the economic and social axis, albeit more focused on the social.

Fair

He came up with it, did Marxism exist as a ruling ideology before Marx too?

That is something entirely foreign to the classical idea of "preserve the things as they are"

Wasn't communism an idea before Marx?

In the classical sense anything can be conservative in that case

Which means arguing that anything is or is not conservative is pointless

@randomNPCno3 I can't help you if you wish to remain ignorant of ancient history

Bro, you need to see a Doctor

I'm trying to point out how useless it is to compare how ideologies implemented themselves before and after the industrial age. They're effectively different worlds

With different moral logic

Fascism was cool way before mussolini was even born

>Man
> Tampon...

~The fucking logic... what are you going to do with it, shove it up your bum.

Period=the cystic infection on "her" wound has burst

No, they are not different words.
They are manifestation of the same order of things, just with one person in power that makes it into a malevolent and harmful thing

You can use religion for good, you can go and send your followers to commit atrocities in the name of god

It is but a tool it has little moral value by itself

Arguing that ignorance is neither good nor bad because it can be manipulated for either good or ill is a poor argument

It is though

Ignore in and of itself is clearly a negative thing, regardless of whether it can be manipulated into something positive

It does, but the world today works through collective morals to decide laws. Not one person

Guns do not shoot people
Democracies are not causing famines
Cars don't run pedestrians over
>> there is always an actor behind those, with bad or good intent

Damn I can't believe Carl "Sargon of Akkad" Benjamin who had key info about Epstein's loli island became the victim of an unfortunate gym accident in his own house, despite not having any gym equipment. He accidentally shot himself 12 times with a modified pistol that has untraceable rifling while simultaneously setting all his hard drives on fire and deleting all his internet accounts. So sad how it happened in 3 days arouns 10pm

Going by your logic nothing is ever good or ill, because anything can be turned positive or negative by people

Almost

We need to generalize to a certain extent and assume that some things are inherently bad or good

Not because they are in the literal sense

Child molestation can never be benevolent

But because in practice that's how we've learned to recognize them

Some things are one-sidedly evil, some one-sidedly good

Most are int he grey area or without any morality at all

You could argue that child molestation can be a positive thing because it brings the child pleasure

Which is obviously fucking retarded

!remind me 200 years

Because the thing itself is inherently negative, even if it is not literally wholly evil

@Skogarbjorn Unions are fascist by the most basic definition of that term. Are they evil?
Mafia is fascist? Are they?