Wasn't communism an idea before Marx?

In the classical sense anything can be conservative in that case

Which means arguing that anything is or is not conservative is pointless

@randomNPCno3 I can't help you if you wish to remain ignorant of ancient history

Bro, you need to see a Doctor

I'm trying to point out how useless it is to compare how ideologies implemented themselves before and after the industrial age. They're effectively different worlds

With different moral logic

Fascism was cool way before mussolini was even born

>Man
> Tampon...

~The fucking logic... what are you going to do with it, shove it up your bum.

Period=the cystic infection on "her" wound has burst

No, they are not different words.
They are manifestation of the same order of things, just with one person in power that makes it into a malevolent and harmful thing

You can use religion for good, you can go and send your followers to commit atrocities in the name of god

It is but a tool it has little moral value by itself

Arguing that ignorance is neither good nor bad because it can be manipulated for either good or ill is a poor argument

It is though

Ignore in and of itself is clearly a negative thing, regardless of whether it can be manipulated into something positive

It does, but the world today works through collective morals to decide laws. Not one person

Guns do not shoot people
Democracies are not causing famines
Cars don't run pedestrians over
>> there is always an actor behind those, with bad or good intent

Damn I can't believe Carl "Sargon of Akkad" Benjamin who had key info about Epstein's loli island became the victim of an unfortunate gym accident in his own house, despite not having any gym equipment. He accidentally shot himself 12 times with a modified pistol that has untraceable rifling while simultaneously setting all his hard drives on fire and deleting all his internet accounts. So sad how it happened in 3 days arouns 10pm

Going by your logic nothing is ever good or ill, because anything can be turned positive or negative by people

Almost

We need to generalize to a certain extent and assume that some things are inherently bad or good

Not because they are in the literal sense

Child molestation can never be benevolent

But because in practice that's how we've learned to recognize them

Some things are one-sidedly evil, some one-sidedly good

Most are int he grey area or without any morality at all

You could argue that child molestation can be a positive thing because it brings the child pleasure

Which is obviously fucking retarded

!remind me 200 years

Because the thing itself is inherently negative, even if it is not literally wholly evil

@Skogarbjorn Unions are fascist by the most basic definition of that term. Are they evil?
Mafia is fascist? Are they?

You can argue anything, that's why shitposting works. It's just with some things you'll be objectively wrong

What, recognize a kiddie toucher that wants to see little girls with their tops off, and pose as female...
Niiiiiigg...

Same type of structure of organisation

I've never argued that unions are either fascist or evil. I've argued that we can assume certain things to be inherently bad or good, not because they are in a literal sense, but because they tend to bring about bad far easier than good, or vice versa.

I don't believe in good and evil. But I do believe in differentiating between bad and good for practical reasons.

Objectively wrong to point out nuance in things

I agree that nothing is inherently bad or good in theory, but you can't apply that theory to reality most of the time