@(a fundamentally broken) outcast look at this pretentious little bitch "the debate on censoring and free speech is one too long and complex to have on a discord like this" you either think to highly of yourself or you really cant throw anything back. In either case you spewing whatever lunacy you read online without any forethought instead of actually showing your beliefs only shows how degraded society is nowadays lacking any trust in anything and only seeing fear and conspiracy around every corner.

@(a fundamentally broken) outcast Oh yeah, I saw shit about this fairly recently IIRC (I'm pretty sure it had to do with some senator who wanted to hold Social Media companies to account for censoring people based on political opinions)

@SideTracker he's referring to Ajit Pai presumably trying to regulate how Social Media companies censor shit AFAIK

@(a fundamentally broken) outcast
"what i know is that it is in corporate interest to censor"
>Yes, like how Twitter, Facebook, and YT are doing right now. I'm almost 100% sure that the plans for this shit are limited to Social Media companies (as Conservatives say they have unfairly been banned for lesser things than their Left-Wing counterparts have been banned for). While I can indeed see how this can go wrong, sites like Twitter and Facebook aren't really NOTABLE for being big on Free Speech (and indeed I posted a bunch of links on Twitter about this contentious issue* awhile back)

*the contentious issue being that of censorship on social-media based on political ideology

**(each of the sites below is rated as trustworthy or mostly-trustworthy by Newsguard, which I consider to be a trustworthy way of rating the trustworthiness of sites)**

And this whole censoring people for political opinions isn't even limited to a single side

it fucking TRANSCENDS POLITICAL IDEOLOGY

(it's just that conservatives are a fuck-ton more vocal about it, for some reason)

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2017/10/27/facebook-censored-cross-your-countrys-government-and-they-might-censor-you-too-james-bovard-column/795271001/
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/facebook-censor-alex-jones-705766/

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/may/11/facebook-censorship-news-feed-trending-topics

Hell, censorship isn't even the entirety of the fucked-up shit Social-Media sites do because of political ideology (and not violent political ideology, either)

they'll even SUPRESS conservative news, or restrict the accounts of conservatives

https://gizmodo.com/former-facebook-workers-we-routinely-suppressed-conser-1775461006

https://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/us/2018/august/evidence-they-are-restricting-conservative-views-facebook-censors-and-bans-more-voices

There's also multiple examples of Facebook kowtowing to governments because the feefees of the government have been hurt (BECAUSE GOD FORBID.....PEOPLE DENY THE HOLOCAUST OR BLASPHEME BY DRAWING MOHAMMED THE PEDOPHILE!)

https://web.archive.org/web/20080424001859/http://www.hamsaweb.org/crime/4.html

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/pakistan/7740295/Facebook-blocked-in-Pakistan-over-Prophet-Mohammed-cartoon-row.html

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-sudan-protests-internet-idUSKCN1OW0Z7

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/02/business/international/web-freedom-is-seen-to-be-growing-as-a-global-issue-in-2015.html

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2011/apr/29/facebook-activist-pages-purged

https://techcrunch.com/2016/05/17/facebook-blocked-in-vietnam-over-the-weekend-due-to-citizen-protests/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/theworldpost/wp/2018/02/19/vietnam-internet/

https://www.theverge.com/2014/4/11/5604472/facebook-government-report-reveals-which-countries-censor-news-feed

**and that's just FACEBOOK**
https://www.milenio.com/internacional/latinoamerica/twitter-cancela-cuentas-dependencias-medios-venezuela (It's in Spanish, but it pretty much says that Twitter yeeted some people because the Venezuelan govt. got angry and threw a fucking fit about some political dissidents)
https://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/22/world/asia/twitter-agrees-to-block-blasphemous-tweets-in-pakistan.html
https://www.faz.net/aktuell/tuerkei-twitter-sperrt-regierungsfeindliche-konten-12903503.html (people were yeeted from Twitter in Turkey because they were pointing out corruption in the Turkish govt)
https://www.businessinsider.com/twitter-censors-political-accounts-2014-5
https://www.businessinsider.com/twitter-has-gone-from-bastion-of-free-speech-to-global-censor-2017-6

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/global-opinions/wp/2017/09/18/saudi-arabia-wasnt-always-this-repressive-now-its-unbearable/

Twitter also censors people based on nonviolent political opinions (because god forbid there be some political opinions that hurt the feefees of fucking retarded boomers)
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/11/twitter-censorship-will-only-empower-the-alt-right/507929/
https://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/media/303295-how-facebook-twitter-are-systematically-silencing-conservative
https://quillette.com/2019/02/12/it-isnt-your-imagination-twitter-treats-conservatives-more-harshly-than-liberals/
https://thehill.com/opinion/cybersecurity/397047-big-techs-censorship-of-conservative-users-is-alive-and-well
https://dailycaller.com/2018/02/21/twitter-censorship-should-terrify-everyone/ (I'm not really a believer in what Jared Taylor professes, but he shouldn't be banned for anything short of incitement or things are are already illegal in US law--such as Child Pornography, ETC)
https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/08/social-media-content-censorship-conservatives-hardest-hit/

https://thehill.com/policy/technology/440869-twitter-suspends-eu-election-campaign-accounts-for-two-candidates-who-were

.....along with suppressing Conservatives via "shadow-banning" (though they say they're going to fix this, I'm going to be a tad skeptical of what they promise)

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/vbj7w3/twitter-appears-to-have-fixed-search-problems-that-lowered-visibility-of-gop-lawmakers

and since examples of Social-Media censoring Conservatives seem to be more extensive (due to Conservatives being more vocal about it IIRC), I'll see if I can list some examples of LIBERALS being censored on social-media for political ideology.
(I've found a single exampled of liberals being censored, but it's by the WSWS, and it's about Google, not a social-media company)--okay NOW I've found one.

http://www.ktvu.com/news/ktvu-local-news/artist-s-facebook-disabled-after-posting-maga-hat-collection-
(an artist got censored--for posting left-wing shit--BY THE ALGORITHIMS that have also banned a fuck-ton of right-wing shit)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M13ar5TWOBw (censorship backfiring on leftists)


**And for the life of me, I can't seem to find more examples of censorship of left-wing people on Social-Media, even though I honest-to-god want to find examples of such occurrences**

Okay, NGL. I might have overdone that a bit. But, it's better to be as thorough as fucking possible when arguing about this shit.

God, I spent like a solid 60-75 minutes researching this shit. But I feel kinda proud for being so thorough <:smugon:512048583806025739>

trot.

why.

what is all of this

@Edog Because I'm autistically precise in what I do

......sometimes, at least

imagine if you used that power on an essay instead of to a bunch of people that wont bother to read it

Dude, I'm fucking SHIT at writing essays

(at least the formal ones)

mainly because I like to work at a slow pace, in an environment that isn't really strenuous

probably also because I'm retarded in how I format my essays

just say something something orange man bad 12 years to live death to israel and you will be on your way to a grand college life

you also must be trans but islamic so you wear a hijab