Message from @yordanyordanov

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2019-09-09 21:18:53 UTC  

It is what i know I'm trying to reveal in concession with Mr. Rosenberg's work @ETBrooD .

2019-09-09 21:19:10 UTC  

And what is my argument ,then?

2019-09-09 21:19:20 UTC  

That's my point, you have no argument, it lacks a core

2019-09-09 21:19:25 UTC  

Cause I have not made it yet, if you follow the discussion.

2019-09-09 21:19:30 UTC  

Yes, that's my point

2019-09-09 21:19:34 UTC  

Like just say it

2019-09-09 21:19:52 UTC  

We want to know what you have to say but you're not arriving at the destination

2019-09-09 21:20:32 UTC  

I want to say there are 2 distinc states human cultures can fall into-progressive or conservative.

2019-09-09 21:20:44 UTC  

Those two are mutually exclusive.

2019-09-09 21:20:48 UTC  

Tell us something new

2019-09-09 21:21:22 UTC  

Since they are mutually exclusive any and every society at any point of its history must choose to be either progressive, or conservative.

2019-09-09 21:22:30 UTC  

The new point @ETBrooD is that if you choose to be progressive you MUST choose to prefer change over certainty, but if you choose to be conservative you MUST prefer survivability over change.

2019-09-09 21:22:41 UTC  

yawn

2019-09-09 21:22:58 UTC  

I asked you to tell us something new, but you're not going to apparently.

2019-09-09 21:23:01 UTC  

The two are mutually exclusive and what people can't get, never get is precisely that CHOICE!

2019-09-09 21:24:03 UTC  

You can't both be progressive and give equal freedom in decision making for all and be conservative and advocate saving your renowned political structure and habits. Can you get it?

2019-09-09 21:25:28 UTC  

You either give liberty to a bunch of fools hoping for the better, but preparing for the worst, or, you deny access to newcomers to your political institutions and decision making processes. You MUST CHOOSE either option, can't have both.

2019-09-09 21:26:35 UTC  

So as a real world example, modern Western countries just can not BOTH give everyone free access to their social institutions and save the aforementioned institutions.

2019-09-09 21:27:24 UTC  

Then tell me why America is probably the most divided western country between progressivism and conservatism right now

2019-09-09 21:27:35 UTC  

If you want to save the institutions, you must limit the access to them, if you want to give equal rights to anyone, you can not save the very institutions that gave them this access.

2019-09-09 21:27:44 UTC  

Which will it be, then?

2019-09-09 21:27:52 UTC  

Cause of

2019-09-09 21:28:00 UTC  

EVOLUTION @ETBrooD !

2019-09-09 21:28:10 UTC  

Do wish to elaborate it for you?

2019-09-09 21:28:11 UTC  

Called it

2019-09-09 21:28:55 UTC  

But I should extrapolate ideas from complexity sciences like biology, maths, geology and even computer science to be able to explain it why to you.

2019-09-09 21:29:09 UTC  

I'm afraid Humanities themselves won't cut it!

2019-09-09 21:29:23 UTC  

So, do you have the patience for such a diversion?

2019-09-09 21:29:34 UTC  

"I never said genetics"
...
"Yes, genetics"

2019-09-09 21:29:50 UTC  

The plot thickens

2019-09-09 21:30:02 UTC  

Evolution isn't based solely on genetics.

2019-09-09 21:30:04 UTC  

Eugenics here we come.

2019-09-09 21:30:07 UTC  

Who told you so?

2019-09-09 21:30:12 UTC  

You just did

2019-09-09 21:30:17 UTC  

No, we don't.

2019-09-09 21:30:27 UTC  

I said COMPLEXITY SCIENCES.

2019-09-09 21:30:42 UTC  

It's far wider of a field than plain eugenics.

2019-09-09 21:31:13 UTC  

Ahhh the Jew dances around the topic yet again. Never fails to add nothing. Can't conceive of evolution used in a cultural manner. Will you ever tire of your pilpul?

2019-09-09 21:31:19 UTC  

Yeah, I made these claims, so WHERE did I said anything about eugenics?