Message from @Death in June

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2019-09-12 12:35:59 UTC  

Without laws there is no guarantee the guy next door won't just steal stuff.

2019-09-12 12:36:10 UTC  

I wouldn't consider myself an anarchist, but I'd consider myself a Minarchist.

2019-09-12 12:36:14 UTC  

If he steals stuff, you have no market at all.

2019-09-12 12:36:27 UTC  

yeah this guy understands

2019-09-12 12:36:28 UTC  

Anarchists believe in the utopia of stateless societies.

2019-09-12 12:36:58 UTC  

Correct, Yord.

2019-09-12 12:37:03 UTC  

Then, why do you think markets alone can redistribute?

2019-09-12 12:37:10 UTC  

there is only one thing that richard spencer has ever said that i agree with and it is that the state is an existential entity

2019-09-12 12:38:16 UTC  

I believe you've a Leninist view of what a market is; whereas, I view it as a byproduct of spontaneous order.

2019-09-12 12:38:17 UTC  

Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do

2019-09-12 12:38:32 UTC  

Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion, too

2019-09-12 12:38:45 UTC  

Imagine all the people
Living life in peace... You...

2019-09-12 12:38:48 UTC  

ok john lennon

2019-09-12 12:39:04 UTC  

<:TimeToBarn:590594455657119812>

2019-09-12 12:39:05 UTC  

There is a reason why his view also failed.

2019-09-12 12:39:18 UTC  

probably because he was a nihilist

2019-09-12 12:39:21 UTC  

You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as one

2019-09-12 12:39:45 UTC  

And Stalin had no choice but to revert back to Capitalist mechanics after NEP.

2019-09-12 12:39:53 UTC  

😂

2019-09-12 12:40:16 UTC  

What was it, production declined to sub 14% after NEP?

2019-09-12 12:40:16 UTC  

huh

2019-09-12 12:40:32 UTC  

the chinese collectivist farming had to revert back to pseudo private property because they were all starving

2019-09-12 12:41:11 UTC  

Correct; they had massive shortages.

2019-09-12 12:41:33 UTC  

ussr grew a lot after abandonment of nep

2019-09-12 12:41:42 UTC  

Right.

2019-09-12 12:41:46 UTC  

nah, i'm just fucking around.
kinda wish Mark David Chapman had gotten Yoko as well .... how do you fuck that up?

2019-09-12 12:41:57 UTC  

He missed

2019-09-12 12:42:20 UTC  

They turned into the inevitable, a Fascist State, combining the policy of both Socialism and Capitalism.

2019-09-12 12:42:30 UTC  

That's always the death of Communist idealism.

2019-09-12 12:42:32 UTC  

Every time.

2019-09-12 12:42:43 UTC  

Oh I thought you were talking about Beatles withouth John

2019-09-12 12:42:59 UTC  
2019-09-12 12:43:26 UTC  

Fascism is economically variable

2019-09-12 12:43:56 UTC  

In policy, yes, but that's not what matters.

2019-09-12 12:44:14 UTC  

In theory and practice

2019-09-12 12:46:50 UTC  

@Weez It isn't.

2019-09-12 12:46:58 UTC  

It's just one man's dream.

2019-09-12 12:47:18 UTC  

You can't centrally plan economies for a long period of time.

2019-09-12 12:47:29 UTC  

Currently, sure.

2019-09-12 12:47:31 UTC  

No matter if it is under communism or fascism.

2019-09-12 12:47:53 UTC  

Anyway, going back to you, @yordanyordanov.
"Why don't we INBUID it through systems of hierarchy where the most competent rises due to his skills?"
You're advocating for meritocracy. I couldn't disagree with this, but that's what already happens in competitive markets. Let's not exclude the labor markets, either.