TBH, @Miniature Menace, it sounds like you're an authoritarian collectivist. At least, that's the impression I get from your mealy-mouthed argumentation.
The reality is, to an extent, people have changed, and what they're willing to tolerate and condone has also changed. This cultivation is feasible, but it will almost certainly not be easy.
That would assume I'm arguing to use authoritarian methods of doing so. Or that I believe that individualism vs collectivism should necessarily assume collectives to somehow be more legitimate as a foundation of rights. Or, whatever other version of collectivism you're arguing, which I suppose I might conform to, depending on what that definition *is.* Maybe provide your definition of collectivism, please?
Thus far my experience has been if you ask MM to actually offer a position rather than complain and claim the end of the world is nigh, what you will get is retardation....
Evolution sans conscious intent, yes. It does not work that way. Nevertheless, selection can, and does. We've been breeding both beasts, and humans, based on human priorities, for a very long time.
